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Discussion in 'Boatbuilding' started by stonedpirate, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. PAR
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    Most of us have been nice about it up to now, some beating around the bush and all, but maybe it's time for a reality check.

    Sonedpirate, you haven't remotely the skills necessary to self design a circumnavigating micro. Hell, you don't even know what plywood to use for God sake. Get a grip, free plans for a world traveling micro, are you really this naive?

    A craft capable of circumnavigating is designed to a fair high level. A micro capable of the same, to a much higher level. I mean if you have this "Trekka" obsession, then great, but you need a lot more then a boat and a case of string beans to get you through. There are fairly low cost plans available, for these small, micro cruisers, but a circumnavigator? Please force the people that love you, to keep up the life insurance payments.
     
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  3. stonedpirate
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    I know. I'll get them. You gotta start somewhere and i'm not leaving tomorrow. Besides, its not like stitch and glue is rocket science.

    There are free plans for just about everything. Its the internet.

    Maybe if richard branson was doing it. But i have seen some dodgy amateur craft cross oceans without advanced degrees in naval architecture. Even the 2 french twins Manie posted crossed the atlantic on crappy homemade boats on a shoestring budget. Yes, it is dangerous, but even the multibillion dollar titanic sank. Some people make it, some people dont, the ocean doesnt care about money.

    Serge did it in a homemade aliminium dinghy and a case of string beans. Doesnt look to me like he's an engineer.

    he crossed the tasman in it then came back to australia and killed 5 people and is serving a life sentence. Bottom line, if you can cross the tasman, you can cross anything.

    Not a great deal.
     
  4. boat fan
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    PAR said it...

    PAR said it nicely Stonedpirate.
    A lot more to it than what you may imagine.
    Best to get a " regular" boat first , and learn to sail.

    On the other thread you commented how " complex " Matt Layden`s boat was ...it isn`t.If you think Paradox is ( too) complex , you need to familiarize yourself with more things nautical.

    Not knocking you , just saying you need to start elsewhere.
     
  5. stonedpirate
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    Floating around the world and keeping my body alive is a great test of skill and imagination. Thats why i'm doing it. Anyone can lay a hundred grand on a 32 footer and circumnavigate.

    Getting around the world on a budget would be an insane adventure :p
     
  6. daiquiri
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    My thoughts in #10 were not iroinc at all... I am still waiting. ;)
     
  7. stonedpirate
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    Bucket.

    Youth and yoga will keep me limber :p

    Office workers in cubicles with their bad back and carpal tunnel can handle it. I would rather ruin myself doing something different :)
     
  8. stonedpirate
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    There are only so many hull designs you can make with 8 feet.

    Making one strong enough and spacious enough for food, water, me and gear is a challenge.

    Probably why no one has beaten serges record in 25 years.

    This russian dude has gone half way at 72 years old:

    Built it on his balcony :)
     
  9. stonedpirate
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    lol

    That russian translation is hilarious.

     
  10. mark775

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    I am not an engineer and I don't wan't survivors coming back at me but I say "the actual design isn't a big issue - Let's Roll" (I'll be watching on the Internet).
     
  11. stonedpirate
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    I agree.

    Its a tub with a hole up top. Dont need NASA on this one.

    Another 8 footer:

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  12. boat fan
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    Imagination ?
    Sorry won`t get you far.

    Skill ?
    Can you sail ?

    A hundred grand ?
    For a Layden Paradox ?
    Your imagination is playing tricks on you already.
    Don`t trust it .

    32 footer ?
    Where did that come from ?

    The smaller the hull , the stronger the boat actually.
    Given sensible construction.
     
  13. boat fan
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    So ...why are you here?
    It`s a tub with a hole up top.

    Stop stuffing about .....Let's Roll........:p
     
  14. stonedpirate
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    ~ boat fan

    ~ Albert Einstein

    Looks like i'm not the only crack head. :p

    Sorry, but read it again, i cant be bothered explaining.

    And the paradox is a cool little crusiser, just wouldnt want to cross the atlantic in it.
     

  15. stonedpirate
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    lol, this aint NASA.
     
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