Gravy Boat, Custom Albin 25

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  1. Yobarnacle
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    My favorite tug of them all. Still have a few of the shirts.
     

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    As promised.
    The "upper level" of salon. The galley.
    Currently empty of appliances and stored items.

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    In the top left corner, you see a round cutout for a solar powered vent.

    Might be interesting to observe the one inch thick foam cored, thick FRG laminates both sides, house top.
    All the Albin 25 decks are so constructed.

    The edge of a black ring top left is a light fixture.
     

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    You're gettin' there!
     
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    Only because I'm PUSHING myself.
    I flog the crew daily.
    Self flagellation!

    I'm pretty competent at carving and fitting, but no where NEAR your competence in degree of finish, Hoyt.
    Wish I was.

    When I studied oil painting as a kid, the rougher, more textured the finished painting, the more people liked it.
    Paintings aren't looked at close up, you have to stand back.

    Consider 'GRAVY' a boat in oils. :)
     
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    My work cannot compare to the pros on this forum. I won't start naming them because I might omit someone and there are so many wood masters I would get cramps in my digits just trying to list them, especially the ones bordering the North Sea.

    I am embarrassed at some of the wood butchery I have done.
     
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    if I have any natural talent/skills as a boat builder, it must be from my Viking ancestors.
     
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    Decided to invest the few minutes needed to install one SeaSwing and lobbed a toaster oven in the windshield hole.
    For SCALE!
    So ya'll can judge dimensions and scale of galley.
    Headroom in the salon is 6 ft 1 inch, and under the hatch, 6 ft 6 inches. Plenty of sitting headroom in the tub, under the galley.


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    I polished up the aluminum SeaSwing stoves, and it occurred to me, my Wife won't want to spend time polishing these things to a chrome like shine. I sure don't!
    So I sprayed them with gray 500 degree tolerant engine primer. it was a choice between gray or barbecue black!

    They aren't left out for display anyway. When not cooking, they stow out of sight, out of the way, in a locker under the counter top, beside the tub..

    :) Page 16 is where other salon pictures are.
     

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    Thinking about how to heat the ammonia with Peltier chips.

    Since I removed the propane system, the flue isn't doing anything.

    Can't be removed as it's integral to the ammonia heater.

    Don't need it as a vent, minus the propane no exhaust.

    The heat sinks on the hot sides of a pair of Peltier chips, if installed inline with and touching/surrounding flue pipe, and installed in the box lower than the large ammonia cooled heat sink at top inside box, could they heat that flue pipe? I suspect so.

    If the flue pipe were filled with sand and the bottom plugged, the sand would retain the heat and get hotter and hotter.

    While the Peltier chips can't directly heat the ammonia heat echanger, the former propane flue can via the sand inside it, a medium for the heat transfer, Peltier chip to ammonia.

    Sand doesn't boil, so temperatures greater than 100 C possible.
    130 C or 266 F is temperature the ammonia absorption cycle starts, from what I can discover on web.
    The Peltier chip gets more than 300 degrees hot. https://www.unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=27_37&products_id=456

    I think it might work.


    Any refrigeration engineers care to kibitz or to set me straight?

    Maybe I should explain what I intend.

    !2 volt Peltier chips providing solid state refrigeration in box.

    The hot sides of Peltier chips, rather than dispersing heat to the air as waste heat, harnessed to cook the ammonia absorbtion refrigeration system also installed in the same box.

    Twice the cooling from the same amp hours of 12 volts.

    Maybe MORE than twice the efficiency.

    In the event it works, a timer or thermostat, could shut off the 12 volt Peltier chips and the residual heat in the sand maintain the ammonia cycle, for some period of time, saving more battery hours.
     
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    Overheating needs to be avoided.

     
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    If you connect the hot side to a big ol' heat sink such as is found in PCs it may keep the temperature from rising to the solder melting point.
     
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    That is already done on the TECs I have. (Thermo-electric cooler)
    They use a big finned aluminum heatsink and a computer fan to disperse the heat to the outside air, heat sucked from inside the refrigerator making it cold.
    Cold is the ABSENCE of heat. Heat is energy.

    Rather than WASTE the heat pumping it into the air, I want to apply this heat (at least 266 F) to the ammonia boiler of a ammonia absorption fridge.
    I'll install the TECs on the same fridge. Creating a hybrid fridge.

    Double the cooling capacity for same expenditure of electricity. I hope!

    I was recently given a Dometic ammonia absorption fridge, and I'm going to PLAY with it. :D
     
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    Before and after.

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    Somebody gave me this blue basket a few months back.
    Had no idea what I'd use it for.
    Its such a perfect fit, it slides in the shelf grooves. Serendipity?

    Must be for keeping the bottom from staining again.


    Serendipity just doesn't explain all that's happening.
    I sure hope this is a gold hunting boat as I intend.
    NOT a teotwawki boat, Somebody Else intends for me!
    (Teotwawki=The end of the world as we know it.)
     

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    The "giving" spirit in this marina isn't a one way street coming to my door.
    Yesterday, I gave away a working TEC fridge (Peltier chip) to someone needing a fridge.
    And today, a tarpaulin and an inflatable mattress, to someone going camping.

    Not holding myself up for admiration.

    Just explaining, there is giving on all sides here. Love this place! :D
    I received a can of sardines today, and from another friend, an invitation to dinner on his trawler yacht. :)
     

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    In progress of modifying area originally planned as wet oilskins locker, to accept the hybid fridge instead.

    Involves redesigning the companionway steps and attached bulkhead, and some additional structural changes.

    I think I have a plan for the hybridization of the ammonia fridge.
    The propane burner had a flue and a vent, two tubes same diameter running parallel to each other.
    Each attached to burner via flanges and bolts.
    Simple matter to bolt the vent tube to the bottom of the flue tub using their twin flanges.

    The vent/flue tube would then extend a couple feet below the ammonia fridge.
    Another chest, a TEC fridge could be beneath the ammonia fridge and be solid state cooled but it's heat powering the ammonia fridge stacked on top.

    If I cut an access hole in bottom of box of the ammonia fridge, the lower TEC fridge is a chest freeer configuration, while the upper ammonia fridge a front loader, and with air circulating computer fans. both benefitting from the dual, hybrid cooling systems.

    Cold air sinks to lowest elevation. It would be nice if that lower box was a freezer.
    I also have a counter top, 110 volt ice maker.
    Tossed by somebody, because it gets confused on cycles. Wonder if I could install working part of it's mechanism in the ammonia fridge? Hmmm.

    Okay. I have my hybrid plan. Execute! :) Need more thought regarding ice maker complication.
     
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