Goota love the Afgan sense of sensibilities

You're way beyond 'just telling what you've seen.' You're also babbling a whole lot of pure baloney that you claim to have heard from others. Apparently you've got a bug up yer butt about American servicemen; you'll swallow any nonsensical story that comes your way as long as it shows us in a bad light.

Please tell us you don't really believe that American pilots had to be forced into combat at gunpoint by British soldiers, that there are places on a US Navy carrier where the CO is scared to go, and that a Post Office aboard that carrier was robbed multiple times during a single cruise...

 

Yes...but the fiasco was initiated by Bush. Both Afghanistan and Irag were to be major regional forward bases.

Obama had nothing to do with the present mess. I salute him for recognizing the mess and extracting the US.

 

Well, if Afghanistan is still intended to be a forward base ( forward toward where, you might wonder) no point in negotiating with the Taliban, can't see them entertaining US bases if they come back, democratically or otherwise.

 

Sorry, that's wishful thinking. Afghanistan is coveted because of its Geostrategic position. Historically it been refer to as THE GREAT GAME. Humanitarian concerns are a smokescreen allowing the US to solicit blood and money from its voters. .

http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers32/paper3139.html

 

Which of the great powers have historically been able to secure a strategic advantage and presence there ? So far, none that I can see. The mere fact they are talking to the Taliban tells me that still applies.

 

Talking to the Taliban will be a waste of effort.

 

A great and thick book by that name tells of this region and struggle:

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Game-Struggle-Central-Kodansha/dp/1568360223

 

When it comes to Afghanistan it's all been wishful thinking for many years. Some of the all-time experts in empire building have tried and failed to get established in Afghanistan. These difficulties were being pointed out at the time the war was being set up, but US military commanders get their strategic blinkers supplied fresh every day, all wrapped up in a napkin with the cutlery and their morning cereal . . .

 

Its a problem..After 9 11 the American public wanted revenge...BLOOD.. disregarded history, common sense and made poor long term decisions.

 

The fiasco was initiated by Al Qaeda when they attacked us.

Obama's doing exactly what I expected him to do. Tuck in the horns and head for the hills, wasting blood and treasure the whole way.

 

In history if you don't retaliate and let others know there are limits, they run over you. You could be speaking French now if Napoleon had not been stopped by Wellington.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vitoria

 

Aww Jeez....your doing exactly what the bad guys wanted...wasting blood, money and international goodwill while going on a hopeless whack a mole mission. The Chinese and Russians are laughing every day, happy to see the US off balance, bogged down and burning resources.

 

Yeah, the wrong stuff is burning, all right.

 

Yeah..but the Russians and Chinese mining companies are just waiting for a peace deal because even though the US and nato did the hard work...our congressman/Senate will make sure US companies dont get the Lion's share of the new minerals contracts...because the big International congloms will grease their wallets...same crap different post-bellum epilogue...the only new entry into the Great game..and it may be significant..is the Chinese...perhaps offering the Mujahideen/taliban types something that Russia/britain/US couldn't...

 

What's so 'strategic' about a place so far out in the boondocks that the only way we can keep our troops supplied is with truck convoys through Pakistan? What good is it doing us?

And although you seem to suggest the US is populated primarily by vampires and thieves, I really don't see blood and money in Afghanistan worth taking, that couldn't be obtained easier elsewhere.