Global Warming? are humans to blame?

I don't pretend to speak for all american citizens. But those who respect, defend, and honor the constitution have enough in common with me, to say we.
For those who DON'T honor the constitution, a bad day is coming.

 

You collectivist!

 

Error!
I don't think you understand the constitution.
The US Constitution is unique among constitutions, not merely the oldest.

It stipulates we recieved our rights from God, not the government. It then enumerates those rights.
It also LIMITS the power of government, and decrees the only power the government has, is by consent of the people, where the real power always resides. The government's duty is to protect our individual rights and preserve them.
These aren't outmoded notions.
These are the very principles of liberty. And if it were NOT for the United States defending other countries during the 20th century, NO ONE in the world today would be free.

Want to discard our US Constitution? It would be safer for you, and those who believe like you, to just MOVE to some less free country that doesn't have the US Constitution.
We WILL fight, if it comes to that! Believe it!
Just LEAVE! And we KEEP our constitution. Then we don't have to fight another civil war.

 

You don't know what a collectivist is? It doesn't mean WE. Look it up.

We the people of the United States isn't collectivist.

Don't let your ignorance SHOW so much!

 

Yada yada. Too much blowing smoke and obfuscation.

 

My faith in GOD is INDEED stronger than my faith in men and women.
You aren't suggesting scientists are some superior breed of being are you?
Last I looked, they were just men and women.

 

What have YOU contributed? In this thread, or in life? Anywhere?

 

A good question for everyone to ask themself. I'm not pushing my own agenda here as you are.
I ask questions to try and figure things out. I have no climate science background.
I'd like our impact to be a drop in the bucket compared to natural forces - I like decent engines and I like plenty of electricity. Hard to believe that we don't have an impact with all our fuel conversion though. Some people try to cast aspersions on anything and anyone they don't agree with. That's a poor way to go through life. A misdirect tactic.

"If we were meant to talk more than listen, we would have two mouths and one ear." Mark Twain

 

Let's see.
In this thread, I've suggested co-operation from ALL philosophies for contingency plans, JUST IN CASE, global warming gets crunchy. Crispy critter crunchy.
And, since the most likely early detrimental consequence would be drought, I offered suggestions to combat drought, solar desalination plants.
I argued AGAINST cap and trade. Preventing stupidity is a worthwhile effort.
I argued for preserving our rights, our US constitution, our liberties, our infra-structure, and our civilization. All excellent causes.
I fended off the baying hounds.
Kept my temper.
And defended my faith.
All in all, a day well spent! Several days!

 

The BEST most reasonable post I've seen from you for awhile!
I believe our CO2 impact is EXACTLY a drop in the bucket.
Some have played up the "enormity" of our CO2 emmissions and never once mentioned the IMMENSITY of the atmosphere or natures contributions.
Their obvious intent is to imply "We MUST be doing harm!"
So, it's in your mind that we are.

Rather than discuss these folks possible motives, let's look at their solutions.
Cap and trade. Who benefits? Who suffers?
And does it accomplish the "published" agenda.
Casting aspersions on anything or anyone that disagreed with?
I saw where Boston suggested I'd sell my mother for a price.
In spanish there is a saying, "Quien imagine', haces."
Translated, "Believes it of others, because HE does it." and literally. "Who imagines, does."
All of us will never ALL agree on anything. We CAN look for common ground to agree on. That's civilized.
Other wise, we are just savages pounding our chests and shaking spears at each other!

 

Please refresh my memory. Where does the Constitution "stipulates we recieved our rights from God."

I agree, many parts of the Constitution are still timely. But that we have an amending process, and have used it a number of times, however cumbersome, suggests that even the Founding Father's recognized that it's not the end-all and be-all.

I certainly don't want to discard our Constitution, and neither did Jefferson advocate that. What he argued was that is unrealistic to expect a single document to be flexible enough to cover all contingencies for all time. My understanding is that he felt it would have been best to periodically review and update the Constitution. We periodically review and update our political representatives, and consider that a good thing. Why not also review that which is suppose to guide them?

 

The things I like about global warming'
There will be more rain
there will be less rain
there will be more snow
there will be less snow
summer will be warmer
summer will be cooler
winter will be warmer
winter will be cooler
earthquakes can and do raise and lower the sea level in relation to your land in 5 minutes
( some of the islands west of Sumatra went up 6 feet in the tsunmai in preparation for the next 1000 years of raised sea level) thats what I call action instead to taxation

 

I am VERY pleased you don't wish to discard our constitution. I misunderstood. Please forgive me.
Amending and ratification of amendments was INTENDED to be cumbersome and difficult. It is NOT a capricious document.

Now. Stipulated rights.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/stipulation

The Constitution doesn't mention God, but neither does it GIVE us any rights.
The Bill of Rights, 1st 10 amendments, RESTRICTS government from violating our rights. The rights already existed. Read the language and you will see in EVERY admendment, it forbids government from actions or making laws abridging our rights.
The 9th amendment is particurlarly special.

Amendment IX

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

We have MORE rights than those mentioned in the Bill of Rights.
What are these other rights?

Amendment X

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Any power not belonging to the Fed gov or states, belongs to the people. Rights! Too numerous to mention.

The Constitution agrees or stipulates (accepts without argument) we already have our rights and government has no authority or power to diminish them.

To find out where the rights DID come from, you need to read the Declaration of Independence. Endowed by our Creator, certain unalienable Rights. Meaning, NO power on earth has authority to take them away.

 

gotta love it. Goooooo Byron, The Spring Hearst Club's got the right idea

 

The Declaration of Independence is not a legal document. If there is such a thing as unalienable Rights I would hope that there is a more reliable source for them than some fragile ink and parchment document.

Since we live in a pluralistic society I feel it is a good thing that we have chosen to give everyone the FREEDOM to believe as they wish about God. That's one thing that I very much appreciate about the amended Constitution, specifically the First Amendment. To wit: