Global Warming? are humans to blame?

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Do you believe

  1. Global Warming is occuring as a direct result of Human Activity.

    106 vote(s)
    51.7%
  2. IF Gloabal Warming is occurring it is as a result of Non-Human or Natural Processes.

    99 vote(s)
    48.3%
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  1. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    yup
    its called the arctic oscillation and its a cyclical "weather" event.

    If you average it all out, then you get "climate"

    Good call Cat
     
  2. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    We went camping up in the Florida panhandle this weekend. It dropped to 24 degrees, not Celsius but Fahrenheit. We released a lot of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere in an effort to warm this small part of the globe. We failed. To avoid hypothermia we retreated to the LHB and turned the space heater on high, burning coal indirectly through the electrical wires.
     
  3. CatBuilder

    CatBuilder Previous Member

    Brrr! What a cold front that was for camping! Wow!
     
  4. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    We spent 2 wonderful nights at Florida Caverns State Park. I turned on my wipers this morning as we left the campsite and gave it a squirt of windshield fluid to clean it and the fluid froze on the glass, blocking my view of the road.

    At the boat ramp, Chipola River on SR 166 just outside the park:
     

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  5. Dushan
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    Dushan New Member

    You guys keep voting in the greens, keep making cars with lawn mower engines, and keep harping on how everything we do is bad. The result is snow, first time since 1956.

    Is this really what you wanted? I say fire up he SUVs and keep us nice and cozy. Global warming couldn't come fast enough.
     
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  6. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member

    Global warming is a myth
    Vote is believers 90, deniers 84

    Back at post #1390 the votes were 88 to 80.
     
  7. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    Back at post #1639 the votes were 88 to 84. Two voted between 6:56pm and 10:59pm.

    1.8 million dead people are still on the active registered voters list. 2.7 million people are registered to vote in 2 states and over 2,000 voters are registered in at least 4 states.

    Would any of you squirrels out there like to take a bite out of an ACORN?

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=49060
     
  8. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member

    now it's 90 to 85.
    When the voting is done, will it affect the climate?
     
  9. RayThackeray
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    RayThackeray Senior Member

    Your logic leaves a vast amount to be desired if you think that votes equal science.

     
  10. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member

    :D Obviously my question "does votes affect the climate" was tongue in cheek! :D It is illogical to think I meant it seriously! :D
    There is far too much evidence that the data for global warming is flawed, slanted, and in some cases fraudulent.
    The proponents of global warming all seem to believe fervently, in almost a fanatical religious dedication, that anyone not believing their philosophy is illogical or stupid.
    :cool:
     
  11. Leo Lazauskas
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    Leo Lazauskas Senior Member

    And the fanatical deniers have a similar point of view.
     
  12. RayThackeray
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    RayThackeray Senior Member

    Since no evidence has been presented so far "the data for global warming is flawed, slanted, and in some cases fraudulent" that hasn't been thoroughly debunked, either you haven't been following it or your logic is still failing you.

     
  13. Yobarnacle
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    “Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present
    alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major
    businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” -
    Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the
    Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

    “CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist
    knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps
    Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda
    Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu
    University in Japan.

    “The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is
    something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of
    the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology
    Department at the University of La Plata.

    “Whatever the weather, it's not being caused by global warming. If anything, the climate
    may be starting into a cooling period.” Atmospheric scientist Dr. Art V. Douglas, former
    Chair of the Atmospheric Sciences Department at Creighton University in Omaha,
    Nebraska, and is the author of numerous papers for peer-reviewed publications.

    “But there is no falsifiable scientific basis whatever to assert this warming is caused by
    human-produced greenhouse gasses because current physical theory is too grossly
    inadequate to establish any cause at all.” - Chemist Dr. Patrick Frank, who has authored
    more than 50 peer-reviewed articles.

    “The ‘global warming scare’ is being used as a political tool to increase government
    control over American lives, incomes and decision making. It has no place in the
    Society's activities.” - Award-Winning NASA Astronaut/Geologist and Moonwalker Jack
    Schmitt who flew on the Apollo 17 mission and formerly of the Norwegian Geological
    Survey and for the U.S. Geological Survey.

    “Earth has cooled since 1998 in defiance of the predictions by the UN-IPCC….The
    global temperature for 2007 was the coldest in a decade and the coldest of the
    millennium…which is why ‘global warming’ is now called ‘climate change.’” -
    Climatologist Dr. Richard Keen of the Department of Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences at
    the University of Colorado.

    “I have yet to see credible proof of carbon dioxide driving climate change, yet alone
    man-made CO2 driving it. The atmospheric hot-spot is missing and the ice core data
    refute this. When will we collectively awake from this deceptive delusion?” - Dr. G
    LeBlanc Smith, a retired Principal Research Scientist with Australia’s CSIRO. (The full
    quotes of the scientists are later in this report)

    I posted this back in post 1426
    Simply ignoring these scientists or dismissing them, isn't debunking them. I give them more credence than I credit any member of this forum. Their credentials are superior.
     
  14. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    Someone here needs to grow a sense of humor.
     

  15. tugboat

    tugboat Previous Member

    ....unless people believe that there is no such thing as the second law of thermodynamics or conservation of mass- and that a system can destroy matter- but not recreate it somewhere else...if you think that these massive man made byproducts dont exist- if you think they do exist but cant possibly hurt anything--
    if u believe detonating a hundred nukes in the atmosphere, water and earth, creating ten thousand years of effects-radiation etc. is "natural" or burning trillions of gallons of fuels -or burning coal, damming rivers, cigarette smoke(think of the trillions of cigarettes that are burnt over the course of the last 100 years too)! if u believe that there can be no cause and effect to those actions- that there are absolutely no consequences to doing any of this stuff--then yea its all natural...and we had nothing to do with climate change..
     
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