Global economic situation for liveaboard cruising yachties

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by masalai, Mar 22, 2009.

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  1. Zed
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    Zed Senior Member

    Oh dear, not another Muppet!

    You have not explained how lending might work in a 100% reserve system, you have not even come close. Have you got a clue how it might work? Come on genius puppet, break it down for the peeps. Or maybe you can't... nah, in this day and age you'd be able to google up someone else's argument. Try mises.org for a start or maybe wikipedia has some stuff you can cut and paste!
     
  2. masalai
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    masalai masalai

  3. Zed
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    Zed Senior Member

    Edit: It appears that the quoted post has been deleted... by whom I don't know, probably its embarrassed author!

    You are truly "special" aren't you pet and lord aren't we sick of hearing just how special you are! Still no substance! 2/100 for turning up, now you pay attention and you might learn, the only way is up for you Mr Muppet.

    So.... you are a goldbug that reckons you should rescue the banks, now that is a first, I bet even the other goldbug's don't like you! I think you might have mashed a few to many web sites together in that ecstasy addled mind you have there.

    An elite MBA eh? Yeah right...

    The dotcom bubble...

    [​IMG]

    I kinda new it was in a bubble say late 98, I was working for a dotcom that actually had a business plan at the time and full well realised what was going down. 2001 is a bit late really to have picked up on the whole dotcom bubble thing... don't ya think... really... so I'm guessing that's a Mediocre Business Admin.

    LOL you'd be surprise at what I read, even some of the tripe on this thread all though god knows why, makes me laugh some times!

    MBA---> they give them away to any fat balding dull witted middle aged middle management that can get their company to pay for the short course. BUT wait, elite MBA... now wow, that is something to brag about! :p

    ;)

    OK folks, the clown show is done, nothing to see here.

    Any one reading this thread actually invest? With real money? Not pocket money.... anyone actually got any opinions, other than your socialist goldbug, mega trader, MBA types?

    Oh yeah almost forgot...

    This part of the last post suggests that the MBA program is still being completed, while the complete post above (from a while back) suggests that at the height of the dotcom bubble in 2001 (LOL!) the same said MBA was being undertaken.... thats the better part of a decade on an MBA!

    Down here we call that kind of elite "special"... We have "special" classes for people that learn at that speed...!

    Oh... again.. and another small point!

    Its quite common for stock exchanges to insist on full and continuous disclosure of price sensitive data, insider trading laws also generally cover the situation as well. Now that is not to say that insider trading does not go on but that the price sensitive information is disclosed to the public in reasonable time. Many investment legends, Warren Buffet for one, didn't touch the tech boom because they could not make sense of the financials and the business models. You only had to have a cursory look at the publicly available data to work out that the dotcoms where trading on air. Truth is that the public didn't look and didn't care, as long as they went up. So to suggest that some "professors" are some how "in the know" and giving the "good oil" to a select clientèle... is a kin to suggesting a war historian could give timely advice to an SAS operative in the heat of battle. It ain't going to happen in all but the rarest of circumstances. Sorry guys but if that one didn't peg your ********-o-meter at 10, I don't know what it takes.

    Sadly even the puppet master behind this puppet has had very limited experience. Too long in the tropics mebe, or mebe some bad acid... I dunno but jeez Louise!

    Thanks for playing... NEXT!
     
  4. nyalex
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    Wow, Zed ... I am surprised you went back to read the posts. Usually people like you just talk hot air indefinitely ... until I pop their bubble. Maybe you heard a saying: "Assumption is a mother of all ffff ups." And you are making way too many wrong assumptions. Let me c if I can educate you since I have a little bit of time this morning. (Probably gonna go in one ear and come out the other). No, I did not delete my own quote. No, I am never embarrassed, my least favorite of big babies. No, I am not a goldbug. Etc, etc, etc. One of my Wharton profesors did valuations on indexes and dot.coms specifically in the beginning of February 2000 predicting a huge bubble, markets did not start to collaplse until March 2000. 2001 was a typo, I type too fast sometimes without checking the spelling and such. He may have know way before, but that's when I had my class with him, genius. What did you do at dot.com? Oh ... yes .... clean the toilets, that's where you overheard some business talk when others were using the facilities. You go try to get MBA from an elite school. First, you gotta get at least 650-700 on GMATs, that's about 20 seconds per problem and you better get almost all them right. Then there is this huge rejection rate against the applicants. Sure, sweety, they just give them away ..... I am not even talking about a cost of education at elite university. No, my little genius, nobody follows insider trading laws on wall street. There is lots of insider information in the hands of the right people, but you wouldn't know anything about that. No, Goldman and pals are not stupid and they were fully aware of worthlessness of .coms, for example. They even made bets against them, as they did in 2007 against the financials (I knew financials would collapse in 2007 based on my valuations). But this internal information based on people like Wharton professors and such was not disclosed to retail investors. Instead, their friendly broker advised them to buy more .coms at highly inflated prices. That's fraud. And what was the last thing you said? Thanks for playing? That's exactly what I thought of you. I did mention some people come here to play, my big baby. You don't take any facts seriously, you are too busy playing. But it's not all bad news. You are quickly becoming my favorite cockroach. Nah ... not really. I can't even give you that honor. Sorry, Zed. Try harder next time. Oh ... and your chart is not labeled at all. Did you make it up on your computer? Next time try officially labelled charts, like Dow, NASDAQ, etc.
     
  5. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    ----Yawn-- Sigh--- Zed 6 -- Nyalex 4.

    Your serve Zed .
     
  6. apex1

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    Where are you living? LNG (CNG) is in use since 20 years in central Europe! Not as popular as LPG, but here are cars available off the shelve.
    (Farmers can use their Biogas btw. `cos the valuable stuff in NG is nothing but Methane)
     
  7. nyalex
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    Let me talk about Colombia, and there is a point. US supports current right wing gov't there, and the leftist rebels are labeled terrorists. Yet, Colombia has been at civil war for over 40 years. Hmmm ... all that US financial and military support and they can't crush the evil commie terrorists? So, I started to do some research on these rebels. Turns out most of them are poor, oppressed farmers who only want to make living from their land. Unfortunately for them, almost all of the good land in Colombia is in the hands of elite gov't/business types there. And the poor farmers where illegally driven from their land by use of military, torture, and murder (much like US did with the Native Americans). Then these poor folks who manages to survive after losing their land and family members decided that they would rather die in combat than work like slaves for the elite on the land they previously owned. Can I blame them for just trying to live a normal life? Of course not. Y would US gov't support such an oppressive, violent regime? Well, you can make your own conclusions. Let's just say that economic/political corruption is all over US and their buddy countries. Then they label these freedom fighters terrorists to make more money from the war on terror.

    Now let's talk NY and USA, since I'm here now and this is what I c. Huge unemployment, my business buddies are making a fraction of what they used to make, businesses are closing everywhere including in prime locations, most mortgages are under water, worth way less than the house is worth on the market, etc. People who retired lost gazillions in their retirement funds and most are seeking work now. Forget about people who were planning to retire - they are still working indefinitely. And all this under Fed, the great US gov't, etc, etc, etc.

    And now you have to ask yourself a question. Who are these entities (Fed, Corporations, Senators, etc.) are working for? Me, the common man or themselves? Facts never lie.
     
  8. nyalex
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    nyalex New Member

    Thanks for your support, Frosty. You have no idea how much I appreciate it.
     
  9. nyalex
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    Here's a question for masrapido. Can you tell me the real situation in Chile? I mean, is it business as usual, or are the gangs of armed criminals running around like favelas in Brazil, or what? I personally always liked Argentina and Chile. Not a big fan of Venezuela or Colombia.
     
  10. Boston

    Boston Previous Member

    I dont know Frosty
    I just read through all from the last few days and I just dont see where Zed landed 6 or Nyalex 4
    I put it more like
    foul
    foul
    double fault
    ok kinda funny
    foul
    foul
    and maybe one for Nyalex on post #3363
    although he did forget to mention that the war on so called Terror was never intended to be won
    although it is necessary that we manage to kill a few brown people every once in a while just to make it look like something is happening

    and mean while the line judge is going for another beer

    B
     
  11. mark775

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    Sorok - nol, Zed. Come on. Sniper was just demonstrated, yet again, to be a lying sack of...'taters. "No, I am never embarrassed..." - No kidding! "2001 was a typo" - Sorry, this fool is making stuff up at a "Andy Roddick" pace, was slapped down and blows over it with (insert billyBob teeth here) "It was a typo"?! The only reason it is not Match - "Sanity" is that the judges don't relate to "sanity".
    Big for a tater, small for a man - he was out before he hit the floor.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eJwoFBgyys&feature=related
    "but, that different life...I'm cool with these guys now. I killed hundreds of men (call them monkeys, don't care...if they not white like me) never more than "splatter" distance. I just turn two taped magazines around and empty other until they stop quivering, then stick with bayonet if the really hot chicks don't stop me. Black helicopters, nighttime, you know... I forgive them. Izvinite , I have to take a moment to travel the world, finish my doctorate, teach ******** on Wall St. what it's all about and save "retards"...






















    ...okay, I'm back. Where were we - oh yeah, I crushing Zed, alter ego Mark, Marco, whatever. I think I made point! He's not even in fight, not very interesting. I'm going to build big sloop today. Ten Million dollar sloop."



    I pay cash.
     
  12. nyalex
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    Mark, I feel really bad now. You seemed just like a normal retard before I came along, and now you've completely lost it. Your mind has snapped. You have this crazy obsession with me. Do you cry yourself to sleep at night like a little girl? Don't worry, Zed will comfort you. Two of you should get married, u have so much in common. You both like to come here just to play around like little children, none of you post anything of substance, both of you make outrageous claims easily disprovable, like your claim that US is a socialist "utopia" and Zed's claim that masrapido is not in Chile ... Nothing either one of you can be taken seriously. Both of you are ... a joke. Still, I hold myself responsible for your psychological breakdown. If you check my posts, u will c I make many typos with letters and numbers. I graduated from MBA in 2000, yet I have done some many things in my life that it's likely for me to make a typo regarding something that happened 10 years ago. Do you even know why I and others prefer assault rifles with double mags? Assault rifles have faster reload times than machine guns. In initial contact with enemy units, entire clip is emptied, then second mag is quickly loaded for more accurate fire. Bayonette is used for various purposes, including hand to hand combat and interogation. You and Zed have no interest in learning anything, and I don't blame you. I mean ... u know ... my 10 year old daughter who's in Manhattan private school thinks kindergarden was the best - no homework, just play all day, u and Zedmeister both belong there. And here is the worst part, nothing you say changes realities. I am still who I am and I did what I did and will do what I will do. You don't have to worry about my boat, NA should complete all plans by end of March. I will spend the rest of 2010 designing the interior, and construction should begin in 2011. Then I will live my perfect life, sailing around, having the life I've always wanted. You on the other hand, are still gonna b here playing around, losing your mind again over and over. It's depressing. And everything we posted here points to a very unpleasant economic situation for liveaboard cruising sailors due to gov't BS that you and Zed refuse to take seriously. Personally, I don't really give a flying ...... what you or big baby Zed think or say. But I have to give u credit for being much more entertaining than Zed. And if Zed doesn't love u, somebody will ... eventually.
     
  13. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    I got a Doctorate from Columbia - Theology - the postage cost more than the qualification:D:D:D I do not hold much faith in academic rigour of USA...
     
  14. Zed
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    Zed Senior Member

    Australia, autogas as it is called here is in common use and most service stations have it. It is a mixture of butane and propane, normally more the latter... LPG if used for cooking its all propane but LPG - autogas is a random mix, the better service stations have more propane in their mix. LNG is not really available as anything more than plumbed in domestic supply, anyone on bottles is propane. Anyway its not so common to see people running cars on LNG here. 1. They have to be setup to refuel from home 2. They have to have put the car through emissions testing to comply with the law (expensive in most states bar NSW) 3. They have to find a friendly gas fitter that will sign off the install as legal and in compliance... as most gas fitters would not touch LNG (no need!) they are not likely to risk their ticket and insurance signing off a home fit (which is what it would have to be).

    So anyone running LNG here has a degree of knowledge and the means to get the vehicle into compliance, or is running illegally (stupid if there is an accident!).

    At least that is my understanding of it! I have only talked (forum!) to one guy running LNG here and he seemed to be a fitter that liked to tinker. I have seen a few people talk about CNG but they have been OS, I guess CNG is not liquid, or is it the same as LNG? I would have thought it would liquefy under pressure.

    When the gov can work out a way to stop you from filling at the cheap domestic rate and tax the stuff, then maybe we will see more of it... I dunno! But I do know its not as good as LPG power and consumption wise.
     

  15. Zed
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    Zed Senior Member

    No thanks, seen enough now to clearly identify the troll and it has reinforced my opinion of the puppet master. This one is a real tool!
     
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