Fuel Prices Hurting Yet?

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by tom kane, Sep 2, 2005.

  1. tom kane
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    tom kane Senior Member

    No not realy,I have the choice of LPG,Gasoline,Alcohol,Sail power and I only need a couple of gallons of gasoline anyway for a trip.
     
  2. Jeff
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    $4.50 a gallon here as of today :(
     
  3. yipster
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    yipster designer

    few weeks back it was said on tv also now that here in holland we have the most expensive regular in the world at over € 1.50 a liter now ( over 7 bucks the gallon )

    remember it was $ 0.16 in indonesia? venezuela was named on tv at $ 0.03 a liter, aint get it anymore...

    high time for hydrogen boating!
     
  4. tom kane
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    You have similar price as New Zealand Yipster,and expecting two dollars a litre by Christmas.LPG for autos is now getting a big run,can not satisfy demand.It is a pity we are still stuck with old technology for our LPG,that is gas extraction rather than liquid injection.
     
  5. Jeff
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    Definitely puts things in perspective (or lack thereof).

    Before the hurricane, everyone was complaining to no end when gas prices went over $3.00 a gallon. At about $3.49/gallon, I caught a family taking photos alongside the gas pump because it was the highest number the little girl had ever seen on a gas pump!
     
  6. Mikey
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    I just have a feeling that prices go up a lot easier than they go down again, they stick up there somehow and don't want to come down again...

    It would not surprise me if prices in the US settle down higher than they are now after this crisis is over.

    Don't complain too much guys, the US is still cheap! compared to the rest of the developed world :)

    Mikey
     
  7. Corpus Skipper
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    Fuel prices have killed us in South Texas. Myself and several other small builders/ repair shops are going under, or are already there as I am. The boat ramps are half empty on Saturday mornings when they were parking along the street before. Most of the Port Aransas charter fleet is for sale, and the head boats have had to add fuel surcharges to stay alive. As for me, I am looking to move to the southeast somewhere if I can find work. I will dearly miss Texas, but I can't stay, there aren't many builders, and the ones that are around won't pay much. Anyone hiring? :D
     
  8. Corpus Skipper
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    Corpus Skipper Hopeless Boataholic

    YIKES!!!!! $3.79 here. $190 to fill up the average big bay boat, or small offshore boat. :( :mad:
     
  9. tom kane
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    Why not become a New Zealand citizen,Corpus Skipper,we are looking for good citizen,
    at least have a holiday.You may like it here,and I am sure work should be no problem at the moment.www.nz-immigration.co.nz.nz-employment-pack
     
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  10. Willallison
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    Diesel is running at around $1.45 here in Oz at the regular pump - more at a marina - so at the current exchange rate, that's $6.80 per USG.
    Not good! :mad:
     
  11. Danielsan
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    Danielsan Amateur designer-builder?

    Just my opninion,

    Here in Belgium we are around 1.1EUR/litre(5.22USD/gal I believe).

    As diesel is getting more expensive allmost every day, LPG might be the solution.

    I encoutered this as one of my dilemmas for my design, diesel or gasoline engine?


    diesel engine way more expensive than gasoline engine

    Red diesel (with less taxes) very cheap 0.5 Eur but will no more be allowed in 2007
    so this will leave a minor price diff towards gasoline, as well in price per liter as in consumption.

    diesel more robust engine than gasoline, I think for the diesel being the 5 or 6-fold price of an gasoline, i can make a few major overhauls to my gasoline engine.

    alternatives are comming to replace diesel (bio diesel etc.) but they are not cheaper for the moment.

    An alternative to gasoline exists -> LPG, so my decision is made

    I know it won't be easy to find refuel, unless your boat is on the trailer.

    Even worse I think as gaoline is more poluant, the will put higher and higher taxes and standards to use this kind of fuel.

    anyway time will tell.

    after the seventies the prices dropped to a verry low point. for now we are getting higher and higher maybe the 100USD a barrel for 2006?

    BTW : I will using the boat for pleasure only
     
  12. Mikey
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    Danielsan,

    Have you considered that any kind of gasoline is highly flammable? Anything goes wrong, you will become 'well done' pretty quickly.

    Mikey
     
  13. Danielsan
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    Danielsan Amateur designer-builder?

    do yo mean gasoline or LPG? not sure about what you mean
     
  14. Mikey
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    Both of them are outright deadly IF anything were to happen on a boat.

    LPG is just like gasoline highly flammable, or rather, it has a low flash point so it is actually even more flammable.

    There is plenty of it on the internet, search on - LPG "highly flammable"

    This is an interisting document from Luhrs http://www.luhrsmarine.co.uk/about/Legend-HunterPropaneLeak.doc

    Here is one list I found;

    Advantages of using LPG :
    • LPG has high calorific value and is a good fuel. 1 gm of LPG burns to give 50 kJ of heat energy.
    • LPG burns with a smokeless fire.
    • LPG does not cause pollution as all its components burn and they do not produce any pollution causing gases.
    • LPG is convenient to transport and store in cylinders.
    Disadvantages of using LPG :
    • It is a highly flammable gas and catches fire very easily.
    • If LPG gas leaks, it can cause an explosive mixture with air. There are numerous episodes of LPG explosions and severe accidents due to such explosions.
    • There are strict procedures for use and maintenance of LPG for use to avoid hazards associated with it.
    • If LPG is inhaled by accident, it is extremely harmful to health and may cause even death.

    In a car, sure. For me, in a boat, no.

    Mikey
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2005

  15. Corpus Skipper
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    There's a thought, Tom. Unfortunately your link won't come up for me, so I'll just go do some digging..... :D
     
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