Ferro Cement Yacht

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  1. JohnDolora
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    Please can anyone help identify my Ferro cement yacht. She is 38' x 10'4'' x6'
    Built in the UK probably in the 80's somewhere on the south east coast.
    I bought her as a bare hull in 2009 and was told she was one of 3 laid up.
    I have fitted her out as a Gaff cutter and commissioned in 2010.
    Any help at all will be most appreciated.
     

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  2. Tad
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    Could be almost anyone......She's a bit narrow, but nice looking. The rounded stem profile reminds me of Alan M. Pape, now passed away but he used to live in East Looe, Cornwall.
     
  3. JohnDolora
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    Thanks a lot Tad, I'll check out some of his designs.
     
  4. Andy
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    Hi John, my boat in the other thread was designed by Chris Petrie, but sh is much beamier than yours (although the lines of yours are almost what you would get if you scaled the beam down in CAD...). In answer to your q about insurance, try Yachtmaster Insurance as they have a ferro specific policy which is very good.

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  5. JohnDolora
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    Thanks Andy, your boat does look very similar to mine, and makes me wonder if they come from the same drawing board. Is there anyway I can get in touch with your builder and designer? Yachtmaster Insurance need the builder and a new survey so I'm frantically searching all possibilities.
     
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    Ferro Cement Marine Services built mine, they were based in Burnham on Crouch. You'll need a survey whoever you insure with I think
     
  7. Steve W
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    Nice looking boat John, it does not look like anything from any of the big name designers of ferro boats, it may not have been designed for ferro but be adapted from a wood design.

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  8. JohnDolora
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    Thanks Steve and Andy, I've been researching many designers and have a theory which has yet to be proved. There was a Laurent Giles design from the 30's called Dyarchy of which I have a lines drawing. My yacht is a 14% reduction to the inch, which makes me suspect that someone has copied it for a builder to make. There was designer called Percy Dalton who did his own drawings for builders and I have tried to investigate further, but to no avail.
    I have contacted a Ferro surveyor who will be coming to check Dolora out next week, so we'll see if he can shed any light.
     
  9. JohnDolora
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    Dyarchy

    Here is the lines drawing of Dyarchy
     

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  10. Steve W
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    Yes, that makes sense as Dyarchy was a famous boat due to being in Hiscocks books and people tend to copy famous things. Nice boat.

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  11. handsondeck
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    Ferro Cement , an interesting building material. Bob and Nancy Griffiths book Blue water is a great testimony, their boat Awanee circumnavigated twice plus. If done correctly I would think very durable. Thank-you
     
  12. Steve W
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    It is as durable as any material, there have been some absolutely stunning boats built of the material and some real horrors. Ahwanee was very rough but obviously a very tough boat anyway.

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  13. handsondeck
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    Steve, I don't know a lot about ferro cement, but is it a viable and practical option for the home builder . Knowing how bob and his wife nancy cruised i cant imagine it could be nothing but rugged as hell. Blue Water has always been one of my favorite books. They truly cruised the world with very little fanfare. Unlike some I can think of. When Bob died if I'm not mistaken Nancy hauled freight out of Hawaii to the south pacific. My name is Clyde Fair Winds Steve. PS We have a little Alberg 30, sails on Lake Superior.
     
  14. Steve W
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    No, its not really a viable material anymore, it was marketed as a material anyone could build with which led to a lot of boats that, while mostly rugged and sound looked like hell. The problem being that none of the materials involved have any self fairing properties so in actual fact it takes a high level of skill to build a nice fair boat.

    Steve.
     

  15. CT 249
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    I think Giles did a smaller version of Dyarchy themselves, so this could be an "official" Giles design rather than an unauthorised smaller version. I no longer have their design book to confirm this.
     
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