Farr 40 vs 45

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by Gunnar Sommerlund, Dec 12, 2017.

  1. Gunnar Sommerlund
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    Gunnar Sommerlund Marine Engineer

    I have been looking at these two wonderfull boats.

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    I have looked at data sheets from Sailboatdata.com. See picture below
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    All i could conclude is more or less that farr 40 is much lighter about 1/5th alltho only being 1/8part shorter then farr 45.

    Can someone share some information about farr 45? the internet seems very limited about the purpose of its design its ratings ecetera.

    The reasson i,m asking is becouse both boats are relatively cheap in UK and Holland. backstay makes it easy for shorthanded sailing and i think they would be overall excellent daysailors for me and my wife (i might be wrong). it would also allow me to participate in local races around inshores of Denmark.
    Again, compared to cruising boats of the same size and year these go for roughly half the price, i have checked the sail prices and they arent bad either. Unless i want 3di north sails :p

    Anyways i hope you can shep some information about how these boats compare to eatch orther cheers.
     
  2. luff tension
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    luff tension Junior Member

    IMO, the consideration if you are not seriously into racing is the ongoing maintenance costs while using the boat for cruising and social racing and how it fits within your available abilities.
    Consider : All of the equipment on the 45 is the next size up and subsequently next price bracket up from the cost needs the 40: general maintenance,sails, slip fees, insurance etc etc .
    Then, if its just you and your wife consider the general handing of a boat 40ft vs a 45ft, sail hoisting/retrieval, manoeuvring, anchoring, docking etc. Or, in a worst case scenario, say an MOB situation, which boat would you want your wife to be trying to cope with?
     
  3. Gunnar Sommerlund
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    Gunnar Sommerlund Marine Engineer

    you have a good point havent been looking at it this way. alltho 5 feet doesnt seems as much. with that sayed i have not been able to find alot documentation about farr 45
     
  4. fastwave
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    fastwave Junior Member

    Both boats are older designs for fully crewed racing. They are not suitable for short handed sailing.
    The cockpit is very big and offers little protection and both designs rely on crew weight already in medium breeze.
    The 45 is way more powerful than the 40.
    You would need to change the deck layout to put the controls in the right place.
    I would not buy this boat for what you need. There are many other good cheap boats that suit the bill.
    For example an old class 40 or a figaro. Both available in France and designed for short hand sailing[/QUOTE]
     
  5. Gunnar Sommerlund
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    Gunnar Sommerlund Marine Engineer

    Thank you for the feedback and i can only agree with you. I guess i underestimated the crew needs to handle these boats.
    Alltho they look extremely cool =)
    And well 2 of them are currently for sale at 50k$ in Denmark near me.

    I guess what cought my interest is that once retired, alot these racing boats are for sale at half the price of a cruiser in bad condition =)
    And once again thank you for your feedback.
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  6. JosephT
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    JosephT Senior Member

    Yes fastwave is right. The racing boats require more crew...no furling systems, lazy jacks, etc. All those nice things allow a smaller crew to operate it. The race boats are also cheaper as their interiors are stripped down considerably. Converting one to a nice cruiser would cost some $$$$$. You might consider a cruiser/racer type boat with all lines rigged back to the cockpit. That will allow to sail at good speed & spend good time with your wife.
     
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