Europe more dangerouse than USA? (gunshots vs terror threat)

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  1. Raggi_Thor
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    PLease try to behave.
    Deleting totally unnecessary posts is OK, I think.

    Chile:
    CIA killed (probably) the elected president Salvador Allende and gave power to Pinochet. I suppose you know that, and what Pinochet did.
     
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    "still does": Putting Saddam in power and later kill him, for example.
    Guantanamo. Waterboarding. Movie clips from prisons in Iraq.
     
  3. Leo Lazauskas
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    That's why we need more Wikileaks!
     
  4. gunship
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    No, you're not merely opening a link to information. you are deranging into a one sided dirt throwing, calling people outright stupid, etc.

    I'm no American fan boy, but I can safely assume you've never been to the USA, and only heard what others have to tell you, Because even if their foreign politics is pretty stupid at times, it is not a place where people crawl in mud dying. You draw up a very one sided view, and call it facts. Most of the people living there are decent people, with no intention to harm anyone.
     
  5. mark775

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    The CIA encouraged the new government. The Chicago School is the reason Chile has a higher standard than some other South American countries. Santiago actually prospers and encourages savages like Mastupido to dissent because of advances brought home by students attending the University of Chicago. They had lax admission standards, taught free markets, and thus had a profound effect on Chile.
     
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    "still does": Putting Saddam in power and later kill him, for example.
    Guantanamo. Waterboarding. Movie clips from prisons in Iraq.
    Saddam turned - He had to go. Guantanamo is probably one of the nicest prisons in which one could be a guest. There is nothing wrong with waterboarding. Movie clips? The kids were goofing around. Yes, it was dumb but dumber to allow pics to escape. The treatment was no worse than a hazing at some schools. What did they do to our soldiers when they captured them? That's right, brain trust - they cut their heads off, drug them behind a car, hung them upside down and burned them. Liberals find the most absurd things by which to be offended.
     
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    So, to summarise the conclusions to the original question, I think we can all agree that there are dangerous areas in most cities and countries.
    If you are silly enough to walk through some parts of Detroit, Paris, Sydney, Pretoria, or Montevideo (or anywhere in Malmo), you are about equally likely to be mugged or killed.
     
  8. mark775

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    "...with no intention to harm anyone." - However, the more I learn about you and others like you, the more I feel I couldn't care less about what ills may befall you.
     
  9. masrapido
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    CIA did not kill Allende. Allende committed suicide officially. He was fighting until the last bullet, and was found dead with a couple of his closest comrades, while defending the then Parliament, La Moneda, against the Pinochet-led army and air force atacking them there.

    But CIA did arm and finance Pinochet who later took about 30 millions of usa dollars and stashed it into an usanian bank, Boston bank I think (it is on the net somewhere).

    So, CIA is responsible for removal of democracy and over 30 000 of innocent people who were killed on direct orders from CIA just because they had their own political opinion.

    Kissinger, motherfucker who will burn in hell for all the crimes against humanity committed in South America and elsewhere in the world, was teh mastermind behind that putch, just as the one in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Guatemala, Venezuela, Paraguay etc.

    Bear in mind that mnost of South American countries were rich and prosperous until the usa came after teh WWII and ****** everything up forcing generations of children to be born in absolute poverty, live shortly in it and die violently and hungry.

    Not one single person, no matter who they are, should live and die like that.

    You may want to go to Guatemala or Nicaragua to see the poverty imposed on people just so the usa can live in oppulence.

    Do you know what they do with the coffee, cacao or bananas? How they use their financial power to force us to sell these commodities for literarily nothing, just so that they can sell it to you ten times over the price they buy it for?

    Would you make boats and then sell them for the half of the price you had to pay for the material and your workers?

    Of course you wouldn't. But rest assured, venezuelan cocoa growers just do not have the option. So the only thing they could do to cut their own costs is to leave it grow naturally and collect what they can from the jungla. It's the cheapest way.

    And they still sell it for the only price they can: half the price of their costs.

    That is why the organisations like fair trading co-operatives are now trying to save the growers of these commodities around the world.

    Some here, but I encourage you to get informed to see what pressure your beloved "brothers" are forcing the people around the world to live in:

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Fair-Trad...-and-Cooperatives-Around-the-World&id=3682445

    Only then you may understand that pleasure I write with about everything that goes wrong in the usa, quoting their own media.

    I am not going to apologise for that.

    We have lived far too long under the oppression you probably know little about or nothing. Because no one is telling you. If they did, your conscience would wake up and you would stop buying products from them.

    They cannot allow that. There is too much profit to lose if you do so.

    But we are no longer ready to live like animals just so you can sip your cappuchino on a terrace of a luxurious hotel ona French or Italian Riviera and think that the life is beautiful

    Because it is not.
     
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    Fix'd. So there, masrapido, its Mark that you should be bashing! why shall all americans have to take the crap, when it's people like mark you should be bashing?
     
  12. masrapido
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    You poyken have already shown how little you understand. No need to reiterate well known facts. Keep your childlish points to yourself. Throwing them around means nothing.

    And by the way, people actually do die crawling in the mud in the usa.

    You are too fresh to know some other threads where I and others have posted photos of usa people doing just that in the usa. Threads were killed by scumbags like mark who were insulting everyone who dared to even mention these facts from the usa. So, spare me from passing your uninformed judgements about the things you haven't seen or witnessed here.

    Before you claim things, you may also want to investigate a little. I posted in those now defunct threads a site that fights for the people like you to learn about what is really going on in the usa. It is a usanian site, non-religious and non-political.

    Find it for yourself, it is not THAT hard. I'll give you a tip to help you. They claim that over 50 millions of people in the usa live BELOW the poverty line.

    But that is not my concern. My concern is those 300 000 000 people From Mexico to Argentina, who too live belov the poverty line thatnks to the capitalist imperialism of the usa, as per my post above.

    If that human drama were to happen in your country, would you sit and let it happen? Would you say nothing? Would you simply turn around and say to people like mark, "I love you. You are so superior. Let me clean the **** off your arse, please."

    I hope you wouldn't.

    I certainly am not going to do that.

    The reality is a lot harsher that you think you know.

    And I am going to fight for it to be heard. Dislike it?

    Close your eyes. I am not having it with you or with anyone. Just with the governments who lie through their ******* capitalist imperialist eyes.

    And my efforts have nothing to do with thepolitics. That is just me screwing the wrong-wwaknkers' brains out becaus ethey are sooooooo alergic to anything "leftist".

    So I kick them a bit extra. Pure pleasure.
     
  13. gunship
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    True, there is a need for some socialism in the US, too bad it doesn't even exist on their political map.

    And I understand your anger about US imperialism, BUT you're just digging up articles where situations in the US are terrible and dancing a victory dance over their proclaimed graves. How is that even fighting the US imperialism?
     
  14. mark775

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    Why don't you guys debate this on some Swedish and Chilean technology?
     

  15. masrapido
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    The Chicago "school", better known as the "Chicago boys", was a group of four "economists" from Chicago chosen by Kissinger to "spread" the capitalist gospel in Chile, to counter the growing popularity of socialist (teh real, scientific) economical theory.

    Not the Stalin ********. The real, Marx thing.

    The group was a total and absolute failure. Initial success of the group lasted short and it was fuelled by incessant flodding with dollars from the usa to cover up the fact that dictatorship was incompetent and that the econmy ended up by far much worse that it had ever been.

    The final economic recovery came only after Pinochet, who realised he ****** up bad, and his Chicago "boys" had even less idea than he did, gave up and asked usa to negotiate with the political parties in Chile that he receives immunity from prosecution in exchange for return of multiparty democracy.

    And it was not the first "elected" democristian government that had achieved the succes.

    It was the next one, the one that had socialist party and the president at the helm. Then Ricardo Lagos, another socialist president, took the Chile to the next level making it the best and fastest-growing economy of Latin America. President Michelle Bahelet, also a socialist, completed his work and today Chile is a stabel, peaceful and corruption-free country growing 6% annually. For such a minuscule country, and in the current climate, that is no small feat.

    And all thanks to our socialist governments.

    Certainly NOT thanks to Pinochet, who had destroyed the country and in doing so stashed tens of millions into his own pockets.

    As nazist capitalist swines tend to do.
     
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