Europe more dangerouse than USA? (gunshots vs terror threat)

I shouldn't have to ask the obvious, but where do you think we're getting the tips and intel from which enable us to break up most terrorist attacks before they're carried out? From a bunch of Nordic blonds? I don't think so....

 

Some, yes. Maybe many but not all. There are those that let it happen. There are many that cheered when the towers were felled. If you saw them cheering and a vast majority filmed around the world did cheer, I venture that they would also keep their mouth shut rather than tell authorities of a bomber. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNdQ-CSQww Look at them. Listen to the horns honking in jubilation. Old women, little kids, EVERY ONE OF THEM. Makes ya wanna give a hug, doesn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG1DYuzVgSk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ft4ZL34Heg&feature=related
Kumbaya

 

believe it or not there were some anti government types that cheered in this country

if tim was still alive i bet he would have cheered too

 

You can't lump all Muslims into one bunch, Mark, and make sweeping generalizations about them. There are entirely too many of them, in too many countries and from too many cultural backgrounds.

What you're doing is like looking at the conflict in Ireland between Catholic and Protestant factions, or looking at the Basque Separatists in Spain, and concluding that Christians must be violent and vengeful.

 

Yep. Timothy McVeigh went to his death firmly believing he was a patriot, and a martyr for freedom.

 

EDIT: troy was faster than me

While i agree that principles must be uncompromised, there are always many more reasons that things happen, and what we see and act against is just the tip of the iceberg. Combinations of different factors, often never brought to light are what finally builds up to, say a terrorist attack. if you for example generalises that all muslims are terrorist, you just offended thousand times the people you really meant. an evil circle.

First, you are assuming all muslims know what the terrorists are up to. do you know what all cristian criminals are up to? do you see how that's the exact same thing you are asking for?

I dont know if this saying exist in english, but translated it goes: "You take the customs wherever you go". however unless it's something that bothers me (or other people), other people can have whatever customs they want.

Im still not sure if i want to dignify that with a response. first: why do you mention Americans and Swedes and comparing our numbers with ALL muslims. let me show you a map of how many countris, where muslims reside? im posting a link here so you can see: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Prevailing_world_religions_map.png.

a (very VERY) slightly more logical comparison would be to compare all christians to all muslims, and there are more christians than muslims, and then again, your statement is redicilous because no one would want that, muslim or whatever. and now i skipped mentioning that locally in sweden the native population outnumbers immigrants. americans, however (assuming you are american, if not you mentioned america), are except those with native american heritage, all originally immigrant...

again you are generalising. religion isn't instant comrade ship. unless everyone is threatened simply because of their religion. do you know how many muslims died in 9/11 for example?

a separate national community that is so close they harbour each other despite some of them are criminals is a consequence of failed integration into the society they migrated to.

your finn friend's opinion about me is completly irrelevant, btw.

then do you want your wife and family "deported, jailed, executed" for not giving up on their fellow neighbor who "is planning to kill innocents."

or could it possibly be that you just want the mexican crminals deported, jailed or executed. why limit it to only mexican criminals is my question. why not all criminals, undivided of such irrelevant terms as "nationality".

no. and by as you cannot be racist against yourself, where the other black people faster than you when you all raced to this criminal and offered to hide him? maybe, maybe there was another reason these people hid him, and skin colour perhaps just a coincidence?

by your logic, ice cream is lethal because as sales of ice cream rises, proptionally more people drowns. For your information, it is because of a factor not mentioned. it is because its a warm summer, and people buy more ice cream and swims more.

 

Most, if not all of those videos were filmed with the people there unknowing about what happened. they were offered money or sweets or other things if the cheered. They all felt horribly discusted when they realised what had happened. but then, that was not showed, those news wouldnt sell as many copies.

 

May I also point out that anyone who responds to the attacks of Muslim terrorists on Christians by choosing to hate, fear or suspect all Muslims worldwide is cooperating completely with the terrorists?

That's what they're trying to do: stoke hatred and fear. They want to start a Christian crusade and a Muslim jihad, and set them against each other.

Why cooperate with them and give them what they want, by becoming an enemy of Islam instead of simply an enemy of terrorism?

 

There is no place on earth where the muslims are in the majority where they have not either run off the "infidels" or cut off their heads. From the Byzantine Empire to Egypt to Morrocco, they destroyed as they went. They don't tolerate us, and that makes us foolhardy to trust them.

 

Torquemada, inquisition, 30 years war, crusades, ireland, salem witch trials, catholics and protestants in early colonial america, whew i'll finish later

 

There is a reason the Spanish reacted as they did, after being occupied for 700 years and undergoing the brutality of their muslim oppressers.

 

Before the 12th century, the Roman Catholic Church already suppressed heresy, usually through a system of ecclesiastical proscription or imprisonment, but without using torture[2] and seldom resorting to executions. [3][4] Such punishments had a number of ecclesiastical opponents, although some countries[which?] punished heresy with the death penalty.[5][6]
In the 12th century, to counter the spread of Catharism, prosecution of heretics became more frequent. The Church charged councils composed of bishops and archbishops with establishing inquisitions (see Episcopal Inquisition). The first Inquisition was established in Languedoc (south of France) in 1184.
In the 13th century, Pope Gregory IX (reigned 1227–1241) assigned the duty of carrying out inquisitions to the Dominican Order. They used inquisitorial procedures, a legal practice common at that time. They judged heresy alone, using the local authorities to establish a tribunal and to prosecute heretics. After the end of the twelfth century, a Grand Inquisitor headed each Inquisition. Grand Inquisitions persisted until the 19th century.[7]
By the start of the 16th century the Roman Catholic Church had reached an apparently dominant position as the established religious authority in western and central Europe dominating a faith-landscape in which Judaism, Waldensianism, Hussitism, Lollardry and the finally conquered Muslims al-Andalus hardly figured in terms of numbers or of influence. When the institutions of the church felt themselves threatened by what they perceived as the heresy, and then schism of the Protestant Reformation, they reacted. Paul III (Pope from 1534 to 1549) established a system of tribunals, administered by the "Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Universal Inquisition", and staffed by cardinals and other Church officials. This system would later become known as the Roman Inquisition.
In 1908 Saint Pope Pius X renamed the organisation: it became the "Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office". This in its turn became the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith[8] in 1965, which name continues to this day.

 

Everybody give gunship some rep. He gave me neg rep but he signed his name. That shows character.

 

my goose has more character than I do

 

There is a difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal(read that burglar) immigrant. Do you want people breaking into your country or by invitation only? If you say you don't mind anyone crossing your border without knowing anything about who they are or what are their intentions, I would call you a liar.