Design competition

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by dskira, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. dreamer
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    dreamer Soñadora

    This was my entry. Nice fancy renderings, but my working drawings were crap.

    I initially started with a 41'er, but after re-thinking switched to a 32'er. Personally, for the design criteria, I think 32 is probably the maximum. A 27'er would have been an even better challenge for a 'looper'.

    While Y-M did a great job maximizing the interior space, my idea was that, with a dog, you'd want to maximize the exterior space. So I made an aft cockpit rather than using that space for accommodations.
     

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  2. Willallison
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    Interesting statement - can you tell me how you came to that conclusion... given that the one of the criteria was that the design must offer "adequate living spaces for the couple to live and cruise for extended periods (up to several months duration)"?
     
  3. Alik
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    27' used to be weekender, could be a 'cruiser' only for homunculus :p
     
  4. dreamer
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    I suppose the term 'adequate' is subjective. It would be best to keep all the criteria in context with one another. One of the underlying themes of the competition was efficiency.

    to be contrary, 27' used to be considered a pretty substantial boat. Of course, we have to consider what you mean by 'used to be'. To me 'used to be' would be 60's and 70's.
     
  5. Willallison
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    Indeed... so what is an efficient boat? It certainly isn't something that be defined by size. Nor can "affordable"... affordable for who...?
     
  6. dreamer
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    true. No quantitative constraints were put on 'efficient' or 'affordable', but I think it's safe to assume that a 30' boat will be more affordable than a 40' boat. Of course, we could go on like this until it gets rediculous - maybe the 30' boat is made of gold and has 2 1000hp engines while the 40' boat is made of paper and powerd by two hamsters on a treadmill.

    However, in the 'real' world, a 30' boat made of FRP and powered by some sort of engine WILL be cheaper (i.e. more 'affordable'/'efficient') than a 40' boat made of FRP and powered by some sort of engine. This thread could go on for 100s of pages to argue that point (for or against), but there are plenty of other threads scattered through out this world wide web that already chase that tail so I'd rather not.
     
  7. Tanton
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    Tanton Senior Member

    Contact:

    By e-mail. ymt@tantonyachts.com.
    It is simply a write-up about designing the boat for the PMM contest.
    All technical aspects were on the plans package sent at the time. And covered glass and aluminum construction.
    Yes, it is frustrating not to see what "others see". Been there.


     
  8. yipster
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    :D geez,, thought I was good in exagurating things so i wont mis the next competition, nice to see these entry's tho
     
  9. ppoulos
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    Rick, that's a pretty cool design. I especially like the deck layout.

    My wife and I enjoy cruising off season, which out here in the west coast means you're out in a lot of rain. We unfortunately concluded a while ago that although extra deck space is nice, we're comfortable giving it up for more interior space and if we want to spend more time out we'll just take the dinghy to shore.



     
  10. dreamer
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    dreamer Soñadora

    I can think of nothing more comfy than sitting inside a nice, warm cabin with a cup of coffee while anchored in the expanse of Desolation Sound on a drizzly afternoon.

    ;)

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  11. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    dskira, come back!
     
  12. apex1

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    Fully concur!
     
  13. dreamer
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    dreamer Soñadora

    agreed

    the internetz can be a bit harsh at times. not a bad idea to take a breather once in a while so come on back when you're ready.

    We're not all jerks.
     
  14. apex1

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    Well, I know several other places, but the mood attracts me. Nice rendering (and nice boat).

    Regards
    Richard
     

  15. dreamer
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    Thanks Richard. I've never been to Desolation sound. It's on my top 10 list though. And if the guy who commissioned this Robert Perry designed boat ever builds it, that's the boat I'll be on. ;)
     
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