design choice for homebuilt

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by jazzmd, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. jazzmd
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  2. upchurchmr
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    Don't count on it being cheaper.

    Those are big boats - do you have 10-20 years?

    Have you ever built anything smaller?

    The cheapest boat would be something used you refurbish.

    I know that may not be what you want - boat building.
     
  3. gonzo
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    As an option building yourself is probably the most expensive. If you simply want to build a boat, then that is not a consideration. However, if you are on a tight budget, a used boat will cost a fraction of building a new one, particularly yourself. Further, you can go sailing right away.
     
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    i already have a boat.... Actually a VDS ;)
    It'as simply something i've always wanted to do.

    I just realized the typo... I meant "aware that it is NOT the cheapest option"

    Can I have some comments on the available designs?
     
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    I have always been a fan of VDS, so my opinion is maybe biased. The Madeira 44 is a beautiful boat.
     
  6. jazzmd
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    My things with the vds is the dated design. I helped a frien building a caribbean. The plans are fantastic very detailed, but i struggle with such a short waterline (9.5m) for a 12m boat... It has the same waterline lenght as the 38 and 36 ft....
     
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    Plumb bows are fashionable, but also wet and have little reserve flotation. Are you concerned about speed?
     
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    Yes.... I'd laike to have a waterline of around 11meters... And maybe a little less beam than the Madeira :)
     
  9. tane
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    ...you have to be aware that a VERY BIG proportion of amateur boatbuilding projects are abandoned, & the bigger the boat the more likely that the builder is running out of steam/money/marriage.
    Have you ever built any boat? a 44footer is a daunting project particularly if it's not to be an empty racing shell but a fully fitted out cruiser. my very rough guess is: a non-professional is going to look at a minimum of 10.000 manhours...
     
  10. Barry
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    There is a Madeira 44 for sale for $183,000 USD in Turkey.
    2010

    If you use the 10,000 man hours that another poster has suggested and assume the materials are $100,000 at a minimum. You would be working for 83,000 divided by 10,000 or about 8 bucks an hour.

    But if you like the idea of building and can spare 5 years full time, 8 hours a day, working on the boat, the satisfaction of building your own boat has value as well.

    What material were you thinking of building it out of?

    To other posters: What would you expect the material cost to be on a 44 foot sailboat?
     
  11. tane
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    ...& don't forget to factor in the cost of your divorce-settlement ;-)
     

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    Dandelion @svdandelion

    Frequent follower of these pages, only second time posting.

    I just priced just basic materials, least expensive marine ply, epoxy, unstayed rig, polytarp sails, for an 18', lightlishly built catboat and I can't keep that under 10K, before a single piece of stainless steel is bought or anything stamped 'Harken' enters the picture.

    I think I'll build the dinghy first. But, if you do build one of those beautiful boats, please keep us informed. I've probably followed a hundred build blogs.
     
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