crowther 10 hull refit: how much ?

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  1. guzzis3
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    How wide are the doubles in the seawind 31 ?

    I don't NEED a bridgedeck, I was only looking at pods to get a big berth. If a good double and head are in one hull that would be fine. I can make the trips across to the galley and do the cooking :)

    If the mitchell does not work out I'll take a look at the seawind, but it's still asking $50k and needing work, and 2500 kms away.
     
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    No idea and the only reason I lean towards the seawind or http://www.boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=12030310 out of all you have shown is because the hulls "appear" fatter on the waterline and bigger in general.

    This would probably allow for more scope with mod's further down the track as it could probably be pushed out to 33-35ft with low bridgedeck without much affect on sailing ability.

    Bigger hulls should be able to carry a load better than skinny ones.

    edit:
    The mitchell (whatever that is) would fit that category as well
     
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    Obviously not as famous, at least not here. He is a boat designer in NZ. I believe he was in Auckland and now in the Northlands somewhere.

    I guess it was just easier than "the 36' cat in NZ" or something. Mitchell is mentioned in the trademe listing.
     
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    Sorry Damian, can't remember the width of those berths in the Seawind 31,they were cosy...but mostly because they were V-berths so tighter forward.
    Possibly 4'6'' wide but more likely 4' . The stbd berth you wouldn't be able to extend as the bulkhead cut-outs encroach if you shuffle aft onto the dinette seat bases.
    The port V-berth you could extend aft, as the bulkhead is further aft. You would lose the hanging locker in the bedroom though.
    The berths under the cockpits are civilised as long as you are reasonably flexible as they are only about 1' above the cabin floor.They are huge singles, and very long as they extend aft to the transoms.
    Personally I would be surprised if you weren't invited to sleep in the other hull completely if you are a loud snorer!
    If you are...ahem...a little wider, you may find the galley a bit squeezy if you are passing thru whilst someone else is trying to cook!
     
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    Thank you for the reply.

    Sorry Damian, can't remember the width of those berths in the Seawind 31,they were cosy...but mostly because they were V-berths so tighter forward.
    Possibly 4'6'' wide but more likely 4' .

    I'll ask the seller how wide they are.

    The stbd berth you wouldn't be able to extend as the bulkhead cut-outs encroach if you shuffle aft onto the dinette seat bases.
    The port V-berth you could extend aft, as the bulkhead is further aft. You would lose the hanging locker in the bedroom though.

    We would want to sleep on the side with the head. The hanging locker is of no consequence. We could always lay coats and so forth on the other berth.

    Personally I would be surprised if you weren't invited to sleep in the other hull completely if you are a loud snorer!

    She wears "protection" :)

    If you are...ahem...a little wider, you may find the galley a bit squeezy if you are passing thru whilst someone else is trying to cook!

    I see that as an opportunity :)

    http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/peterson-40/90501

    I know it's a lead mine but it puts things into perspective. That's a lot of boat for $40k.

    Survived valentines day. Took the boss out for a 3 course meal which went really well. Happy all round. :) (no matter the $, I still have all my limbs...)
     
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    so you buyin it?
     
  11. guzzis3
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    I am agonising about having a look. REALLY don't want a ply boat.

    But if it's sound it makes everything else look REALLY expensive. I couldn't believe it didn't sell at $29k, it can't last at 19. Surely ?

    The J5 hasn't sold at $4500. I have more buyers comming to have a look but no money yet.

    It really is a buyers market. If a seller is serious the price has to be really low to meet the market.

    I made an enquiry about the seawind 31. I'm not paying $50 though...
     
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    I must agree that the wharram-style cat I just purchased at 30 years old made with epoxy coated exterior ply appears to have "like new" hulls.
    the weight of them isn't ideal vs foam, but if done right they last.

    I've found in my searching that Florida has good deals on boats, and they have cats there,
    here is todays find, Prout 31 at $35k <url>http://keys.craigslist.org/bod/2876339364.html</url>,
    looks like a double bed is no problem in the bridgedeck. Someone will sail it to AU for you..
     
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    I knew John Mitchell; he was an AMSA stalwart and racer three decades ago, designed and built Isis 1 and 2, I believe I2 is a sistership to the Mitchell 36 here for sale. The same below/above deck hull shape was done first here by David Barker with his big Stratisphere, Sundreamer catamarans, using a quarter mould; also same bow and stern of course, and John Mitchell used the same process for his Isis designs.
    He produced a quite extreme micro multihull design (seen here) for a show we put on at the Richmond Yacht club.
     

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    Great styling!
     

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    When you say you knew him does that mean he is no longer with us ?

    As for the prout they come up for that sort of money regularly. Unfortunately the costs of fitting out a cat for blue water and getting it through Australian customs and quarantine are not trivial.

    If I could find a cheap way to get it here I'd have the mitchell. Shipping was $20k and sailing it over insurance was difficult and fitout etc was adding up.

    It was just a blessed nuiscance. Really like the boat.

    Life.

    I've been wondering about this. It'd have to be double diagonal I'd say

    http://boatpoint.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdetails.aspx?R=11657591

    nicol tri for $25k.

    and this popped up the other day :D

    http://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sailing-trimaran/hartly-sparkle/110557

    I know, it's a hartley sparkle, but it claims it's glass. I've always liked the design and have build plans for it. Apparently the aren't as slow as you'd imagine...
     
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