Cool trailerable boat

Discussion in 'Option One' started by parkland, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. parkland
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    I see some red flags in my book.

    1) Why 8' and not 8'6" which is also trailerable anywhere?

    2) I am not sure outboards are sutable for the speeds of a full displacement trawler.

    3) "ideal proportions and perfect ratios" are not just meaningless, but concerning coming from a NA, there is no perfect ratio, everything is a trade off.

    4) composting toilet? Not sure about this one

    5) how are the running the AC without a thru-hull? I don't want window units on a boat

    6) no holding tank, which could be a problem in some areas (grey water)

    7) a single house battery is going to seriously cut crusing range, particularly with no generator and an outboard alternator (I am assuming, there is no mention of it).

    8) transom mounted depth. Er, not on my boat.

    9) 15.4kn max speed is directly conflicting with the 'full displacement trawler' of their brochure


    Frankly I am not sure what this boat is supposed to do well. It looks like a 30' fishing boat butchered to fit on a trailer.
     
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    It may not be exactly my cup of tea either but this boat offers a choice not currently available from other sources I am aware of.
     
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    Tom,

    After looking at it more, this is not a trawler by any definition i accept. It is a planning hull cabin cruiser. I like the look of it more than a SeaRay, but that is its closest comparison.

    5) I agree AC on a small boat is a little silly... But I want to know how it's being run not if having it is a good idea.

    6) by not having a grey water tank those other boats are also limited in where they can cruise.

    8) I don't like transom mounted depth meters. They have a habit of getting ripped of, and have cavitation problems at high speeds.

    9) possibly, but it takes it out of the range of a trawler.
     
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    Yep. People, especially newbies to boating, like the name "trawler". So, like "dory", its' found everywhere whether it applies or not.

    I guess the question really is, "would this boat make a suitable trailerable boat for extended coastal cruising like the Alaska/BC route?" I think the answer is yes and the number of similar competitors looks very small .
     
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    It's suitability would depend heavily on the required range. Apparently it comes with either a 60hp or a 120hp outboards. With either the range at displacement speeds it ok, but less than it would be with a more suitable engine for a true trawler. At planing speeds the range drops pretty quickly, as would be expected for pretty much any planning hull.

    Other than the aluminum construction I am not sure how it differed from any one of many similar boats.
     
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    It's a really cool design, I thought.

    40 hp inboard diesel would be awesome.
     
  8. michigangeorge
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    It is a ridiculous price for what you get IMHO!
     
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    Maybe so, but the concept is interesting, I think!
     
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    8'6" is not universal across the globe, in Australia, e.g., the width is 8' 2.5" (2.5 metres) A lot of US built trailer boats have been imported privately, and I suspect more than a few don't bother with the permits that are required for oversize loads ( 8 ' 6'') . But that could create problems in case of an insurance claim.
     
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    8) transom mounted depth. Er, not on my boat. Don't know what you mean here.


    Maybe this is out in left field and not applicable here, but a transom mounted depth finder kind of tells you where you've been, not where you are going. Where is mine mounted? On the transom. :eek:
     
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    There are a few states that will require oversize permitting for an 8' 6" beam boat (not many).

    Assuming a LWL of 30', 17.7 MPH (15.4 knots) has this boat at a S/L of 2.8 and considering her beam and D/L (116) this places her on the edge of full plane, though the photo doesn't show this. Some quick math with an 8,000 load, 10% slip on the 60 HP outboard, 14 - 15 MPH seems about the best she can do, so Tom's assessment of advertising hype is likely correct.

    You don't need a black water tank with this head arrangement.

    Thru hulls are reliable and trust worthy. I've seen factory mounted thru hulls that where 30 years old, without a lick of maintenance still holding water back.
     
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    I agree - $218,000 ????

    I thought it was impossible to build something cheaper than it cost to commercially manufacture , but this surely must be an exception ?

    For all that - if the cost was reasonable, I can see it being great fun. Having the words 'seagoing' and 'trailerable' and '15 knots' in the same boat pushes some buttons for me.
     
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    I like it, and don't see why it couldn't be inboard as an option or even sterndrive.

    But they claim it is 'full displacement' which to me means it would do fine with smaller outboards, just little slower and more MPG, and it is easier to swap motors with an outboard setup.

    Be nice if gunnel walkways were a bit wider for surefooted fish fighting action. I'd want some dual purpose bolt-on extensions that would serve as gang planks or benches.

    I think they just called it a 'trawler' because 'cabin cruiser' or 'cruiser' tends to mean fat, tall, pure planing hull boat(condo that floats, with huge motors). They should call it 'fair weather fast trawler'.
     

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    I agree, way too much money.
    But it still serves the purpose of showing off a nice trailerable trawler design.
     
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