Concrete submarine

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  1. dskira

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    And that Wellmer after the navies is the worst crap ever.
    Answer the questions.

    A reminder

     
  2. wellmer
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    bntii, bntii :p - always "slightly subversive" - and out for damaging my reputation - from a anonymous position - do i spot competition interrest?
     
  3. dskira

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    You think someone want to compete with you?
    You crazy Wellmer. completly crazy.
    Answer the questions

    A reminder:

     
  4. bntii
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    The sea of public opinion is a tempest, though this is the sea in which you swim.
    A point I observe that you have long recognized.

    Regards
     
  5. Kay9
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    Wellmer.
    A couple of questions regarding the photos you have posted.

    For a commercial pleasure sub why dont any of the windows/ports look down toward the reef and the fish instead of up at the immigrations/us coast guard cutter?

    Also as it is apparent from the pictures that your sub is positive in bouancy while on the surface. So where are the holes in the hull that allow you to flood negative so that the thing will actually dive.

    Finally do you have any actuall pictures of any of your subs actually traveling "underwater"?

    K9
     
  6. dskira

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    Very good question. Unfortunatly Wellmer do not know what is a submarine.
    free floading, Kingstown valves, compensation, all that as absolutly no meaning for him. he is a ignorant who try to make a buck.
    And a reminder:

     
  7. Kay9
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    Hey Wellmer.
    Who has given you the right to republish from these forums to other places on the web?

    http://imulead.com/tolimared/concretesubmarine/anuncios/af/

    Seems you like to pick and choose comments here to fool others into thinking people here of honest reputation agree with your ideas.

    Not cool.

    K9
     
  8. Kay9
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    Also FYI
    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/09/drug-runners-st/

    Make sure when you deliver your sub that its proudly flying the flag of its state. Otherwise the US Coast Guard will be paying you a visit.

    Actually at this point, I would just count on a visit no matter what flag you fly.
     
  9. bntii
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    Narco subs are a big problem.
    Take a look at this one:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/915059.stm

    And the requisite Wiki page:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco_submarine

    The existence of these illicit vessels is yet another item on the long list of problems with this pipe dream of "Submarine Yachting".
    The first thing on the list is simple vocabulary: he is not building a submarine- it's a submersible.

    Wellmer- when's the last time you made a ocean passage or entered any port with one of your submersibles?
    Think maybe you should "try it before you buy it?"

    Opps- I mean try it before you sell it...
     
  10. Kay9
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    Wow. So Simply owning one of these concrete subs comes with a possible 20 year federal sentance.

    Thats really going to look impressive in the Swedish stockholders report.

    K9

    Edit:
    I missed this part:
    "Colombia's congress passed a law in June 2009 punishing the building of semi-submersible vessels with up to 12 years in prison"

    Ill bet this just has the investors and buyers swarming to Wellmer.
     
  11. Knut Sand
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    Ehmmm, well:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eI4vvlupY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOs6MrYDhc4 (look at 2:10)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWuvGoKdWFM&NR=1
     
  12. wellmer
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    :D this thread is really fun ... are these the claimed "experts" posts?

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Knut Sand
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    :D

    Glad you like it
    :D

    The music on the 2nd vid is also quite good, they even crash trains to see how they behave.:D

    btw; the inspection by the swedish inspector;
    1; did he witness the pour process?
    2; Where is the steel reinforcement placed to take max stress, centre of the wall thickness or closer to the internal space?
    3; What type of concrete do you use, and how do you assure (and document) the quality/ mix/ strength (now we do do understand that concrete hardens for an eternity, but at one point you'd want to get rid of it, preferably in the direction of a paying person...).
    4; If 3 is not valid; how do you (plan to?) perform a documented test, and to what rate do you consider a depth test to prove to which working depth?
    5; you compared concrete subs to steel pressure vessels, and stated that they could have longer intervals between the test/ recertification. Boilers here in Europe is subjected to retest every 5 year. Pressure vessels for air, is recommended every 10 year. Now, the tricky part; how will you use ultrasonic to test a hull made up of concrete and steel reinforcement every 10 cm? The steel strength is and will be cruzial, also the life of the steel reinforcement, how is that inspected? (planned to be inspected). And why do you consider test periods for concrete subs to exceed that of pressure vessels?

    Pls, answer this BEFORE Apex fires up, again...:p
     
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    Fun :D

    K9
     

  15. Knut Sand
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    Careful there..... Isn't Saab bought by some Chinese company...?:D
    (to be earnest; I don't like what seem to happen to Saab these days, almost as crazy as some of the 3 big ones....)
     
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