Concrete submarine

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  1. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    If you can't answer, do not post about your submarine.
    Don't insult the real submariners. Answer the question. The list of the submarines you served in.

     
  2. bntii
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    Thank you for your comments HK.
    It serves as a refreshing counterpoint to the posts offered by wellmer.

    I would not overstate the "corporate secrets" stance.
    While some aspects of design are propitiatory, the materials and structure of your vessels must be declared if you expect to gain any standing in the marine build community.
    At this juncture such posturing is a transparent ploy to avoid being appropriately challenged on the many obvious deficits in the 200 ton hull.
    In spite of the claims by wellmer, this board is populated by many highly qualified professionals whose input should not be dismissed.
     
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  5. HeKi

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    I know that thera are many highly qualified individuals who visits this forum, and I appreciate this fact.
     
  6. HeKi

    HeKi Previous Member

    We don't want to reveal to much information. Remember that we are cooperating with the Colombian, and US navy. We must show respect for them.
     
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    The U.S. Navy has always (along with the British Navy, sometimes even while at war with each other) stay abreast of the most advanced technologies available. If they are using concrete submarines they must be Top Secret or we would have heard of them. If they are not, they must know of a good reason not to, such as the concrete propellers keep falling of when they are in reverse.
     
  8. dskira

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    Heki-Willmer, that the worst bull I ever heard.
    And your post is very easy to verifie, and it will be negative of course.
    Do not go to that path of lie, it is an insult and it is not welcome.
    Stay with your project if you want, but don't escalate to that level to prove yourself important. It is not necessary, and I take offence of your lie. Nor you, nor Wellmer are architect naval, not ingeneer, nor even boat designer, so please refrain to be the worst jerk ever.
    This is just for you to remember who you are.

    Liar, I wish you the worst day possible
    Daniel
     
  9. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    Stay in Sweden and Columbia, jerk, do not talk about the US never. Understood.
    A reminder

    Just don't
    Daniel
     
  10. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    What respect. You even don't know what is respect. you talk about respect?
    You are a real piece of dirt, talking patriotism, when you even are not involve in these two country. You insult us. You better shut up on that subject.
    A reminder of your patriotism and birth root and lie on a submarine blog:

     
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    wellmer New Member

    :D hmm - whatever you say....your achievements are?

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  12. dskira

    dskira Previous Member

    Same pictures all over again. No answers what so ever.
    So I ask again Wellmer:
    The list of the submarine you served on?

    A reminder

    Your pictures are bull. They means nothing.
    Answer the APEX1 question and mine.
    And don't come with the bull corporation secret and the worst of all the navies bull. This is parjure. Shame on you, shame on you to use navies to boost your lies.

    Daniel
     
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    I dived the first submarine i built with my own hands at the age of 15 - so i consider myself a submariner in the sense of ( psubs.org ) - please read the thread - and please delight us with your personal achievements...
     
  14. bntii
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    I appreciate this position and have long recognized that this could be one components of the reticence shown on releasing technical details.

    He also put forth many many times that these hulls can be constructed by ANY practitioner who has knowledge of structural concrete construction.

    This is not the case of Soviet Block engineers employing military expertise to construct submarines for the narco trade.

    The information requested here is an attempt to differentiate what is apparent: a crude roughly build hull with no engineering or ability to dive at depth, from what is claimed.
    This hull to the eyes of those who would copy it, is already sufficient for illicit trade and there is no hidden missing detail that needs to be concealed to prevent the application of this technique to such trade.

    The claimed performance and attendant engineering would not be needed or employed in illicit trade. The lacking ancillary equipment would fail at depth long before the hull.
    Providing some insight into the engineering used here would to my mind help to differentiate this effort from its nefarious brethren.

    So trade secrets and now military secrets..
    I believe you are guarding what you do not possess.

    There are no secrets.
    There is only the success or failure in adhering to thoroughly, publicly documented construction methodologies.
    Which is it?
     

  15. dskira

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    Wellmer I am not trying to sell a submarine, you do that not me.
    So please don't be a smart ***.
    Answer the question

    A reminder

    Daniel
     
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