Concrete submarine

language skills

We should none of publicly berate anyone else for their linguistics ability, whether we agree with their position or not. We all speak different languages or different dialects within the same language. We would all be hard pressed to communicate in some of the various tongues our group possesses.
That being said, where is the technical data that has been asked for on multiple occasions?

 

but then some of us sound stupid in any language

 

Thanks for the serious reply about a serious matter. I just poked my head in and I read what was going on. I do not know what is going on in his world, and I have questions and concerns. I really like the concept, I probably always would and I would love to own a safe working submarine of that type. As a sailboat owner and would be sub owner, the current photos have me concerned on many levels. My untrained eye sees too much done out of scale with the methods necessary. Does that summarize adequately? I apologize for my knee jerk 1st reaction. Wil has always answered my novice questions to my satisfaction, and has refused my deposit offers. That may not answer many questions. But I recall requests 6 months ago for current photos, which at some time he provided.

 

Here you start to be serious. No kidding, good attitude.
One thing I realy suggest as a professional: forget about submarine, they are not yacht, never ever will be and they are deadly. Only trained people must touch these underwater machines. Submarine is after the aircraft carrier the most complicate and demanding piece of design and engineering.
Wellmer do not have eather. It will take thousand and thousand of hours and at least five trained naval architect and engineers to design a good sub. Without talking of the specialist designer representing the different manufacturers.
If you don't pull my finger, giving him money was foolish.
I am serious, if you have a family, and care for them and your life, keep an eye on surface boat, they already are complicate enough.
I tell you, Wellmer explainations, or non explainations are ********.
If you go there, you will be sorry, I garentee it.
This is my very serious and professional two cents
Cheers
Daniel

 

sub yacht ranks right up there with flying car

you can build a flying car but would you want to drive it on a crowded city street?

 

So you´re happier than the forum members!
Mr Ellmer was asked here by almost ALL of the contributors to provide some simple, basic info.
Which quality of concrete he uses (to mention one of the repeated questions), which way he poures it, etc.
Never there was a single reply, just drivel and marketing nonsense!
When your local car dealer would act the same way, he would just go bancrupt.
When the car manufacturer would act that way, the market would butcher him in a few minutes.

Are you going to buy a personal aircraft when the manufacturer provides nothing but the claim "all tested and proven"???

Regards
Richard

 

You better explain with your two sentences than my long post! Well said.
Cheers
Daniel

 

What will be necessary to convince Stonewall to keep is life out of danger, is family safe, is money in the bank, and continuing the pursuit of happiness without being conned by a con artist.
We are not a lynch mob. we don't like cheaters and liars.
Well said Richard
Cheers
Daniel
Daniel

 

I understand

I understand if he has proven himself those things to you. But they have not occurred to me, and have not been my experience.
That is my point here, in that I have experienced misunderstanding through texting. I am not going to review post and see what you mean by the word proof. If you have proof, I would respectfully like to see it.
I told you that I see problems with the pictures that I see, and it concerns me. But my defense comes with accusations to lying, cheating, and all the rest. I would like to see what you call proof. These are very hard accusations to prove on a forum and are easy to misinterpret. I do apologize to you personally to responding so harshly to you personally Mr. dskira. I do however, remain steadfast in my criticism of the lynch-mob attitude that I read. Taking bets on a mans life is uncalled for in any civilized arena.

 

Willy still visits the forum every day but chooses not to comment or

answers continued questions. I wonder why...?

I almost feel sorry for him.

-Tom

 

Look over my posts.

It is a matter of record that wellmer has lied about his experience, the capabilities of his subs, falsified research to support his claims, and failed to provide and even the slightest defense of the above actions.

If one needs to be polite, please insert misrepresented in the place of "lied" in the above.

It has to be remembered that the harshest critics on this thread agree that a carefully engineered submarine can be made of concrete. They also agree that no engineering is observable in this presentation of wellmers.

 

I apreciate but you didn't have to apologize. I have a thick skin
That said it is Wellemer who

Not us. I told you what I thought about this scam, I warned you for your own sake, money and well being.
This is my last post in this thread. I will not continue to warn you or other.
At that point I have other more interresting thread in this forum to look at.
I wish you luck, and thank you again for your courtesy.
Good by
Daniel

 

Quote:
"Taking bets on a mans life is uncalled for in any civilized arena"

Lets just clarify that the destructive crush test I've been advocating is an

unmanned test (duh) unless of course Willy would like to experience it first

hand, that is entirely up to him and his sensibilities (or lack there of...).

-Tom

P.S. Willy, when is the test anyway?

 

Whoever call this forum a civilized arena should be keelhauled!!!!!

 

I was kind of wondering about that. But being a relative noob, I figured it wasn't my place to bring it up....