Completely clueless

Discussion in 'Materials' started by Qbonez, Jul 6, 2018.

  1. Qbonez
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    Qbonez Junior Member

    3 grand seems a bit steep. I'm at 700 thus far and should hopefully be enough to get stringers and transom water tight. My girlfriend has a motor I can use. I think a key point I should make is I would like to just be on the water. I may have a speed boat but I don't plan on going anywhere fast. Just need a motor strong enough to move the boat away from the dock. Unless I can find a cheap boat that is in operable shape which seems like a vague plan.
     
  2. fallguy
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    The labor is worth a couple thousand dollars for transom, sole, stringers, paint. You still need to redo the sole.

    You could find a water ready alumimum boat for the money you got in this one.

    I hate to be harsh, but these things are economic decisions for me unless I love them.
     
  3. Mr Efficiency
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    Unless you have got hold of a "gun" hull, that was superior to others of the kind, restorations are not worthwhile, generally speaking. You need the Ferrari in the sea of Fords, to make it a proposition worth the grief and $ involved.
     
  4. Qbonez
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    Plan is to put a carport over a majority of the boat so when my supplies come in I can try and make progress. I don't love anything but this is something I haven't done and i like learning so even if I don't keep it I'll have experience in it
     
  5. BlueBell
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    BlueBell Ahhhhh...

    I hate to say it, but cut your losses and get a small, used aluminum that's ready to go.
    Put the girlfriends motor on and you're pulling away from the dock this weekend...
    Your call. Spend lots of money to sweat the summer away spending more $$$ than you expected on more work than you expected with less than fantastic results that are unsellable... or go boating.
     
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  6. SamSam
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    How have you got $700 into this boat? Did you buy a bunch of materials?
    Anyway, don't breath the cabosil, it's not good for you. Actually, none of boat work is good for the lungs, a lot of the chemicals used leach through skin into your bloodstream and organs. I'm sure some people inadvertently and unknowingly shorten or compromise their lives by farting around with old decrepit boats like this. Get certain some of this stuff in your eyes and it melts corneas. Get sensitized for life to others and you get hives or breathing problems every time you get near it, even the boat you built or repaired becomes unusable.
    It's not common, but it's definitely not unknown to develop problems.
    You don't have to remove the cap to turn the boat over. If you think it would be hard to get the cap off, getting it back on is worse. Sometimes it won't go back on because the hull has changed shape and been locked in that shape by the new glass work.
    Even leaving the cap on, with the internal structure so compromised, you'll have to make sure the hull is in the correct shape before glassing in the stringers and floor. Trailer supports can make bulges and the whole hull can get twisted easily when getting in and out to work on it. That is something you should check right now actually. Sitting on a trailer for years can permanently change the hull shape.
     
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  7. Qbonez
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    So the hull should be fairly close to flat the whole length?
     
  8. fallguy
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    Just look for obvious issues like hull depressions on the bunks or rollers.
     
  9. Qbonez
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    Only issue I've seen is the bottom bellies up about the middle, but that could be because most the stringers are out now
     
  10. fallguy
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    Installing the stringers isn't going to correct the belly.
     
  11. Qbonez
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    How would I fix it then? If I put weigh on it the bump goes back down. Or should I just go back to being a failure at everything u attempt
     
  12. SamSam
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    Now that I look at the transom pic in post 86, I don't ever remember seeing rounded chines like that in a boat that was expected to plane.
    Anyway, post some photos from the front and the back showing the bottom and how it bellies up. You have to be sure it's right when it's finally all glassed together because that's the way it will stay and it could easily affect performance. Some times the severity of the problem is hard to correct.
     
  13. SamSam
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    Yes, weights or bracing or whatever is needed to get the correct shape would be required, but there's the dilemma of possibly your weight being in the boat causes deformity, so you have to somehow glass every thing in without you standing in the boat. There's ways for that, but first post some pics of the bottom.
     
  14. Qbonez
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    Front profile back profile and interior of transom
     

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  15. fallguy
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    Well; for starters you are asking and that is good.

    I think you ought to pick the boat up at the transom and put some boards under the transom like 2x4s around the length of the boat beam. See if it drops from that alone.
     
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