Can everybody design?

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by ekamarine, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. frank smith
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    That is an interesting statement . Is not the science of Navel architecture the quantification of years of trial and error?
     
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    that kind of institutional monopolization has destroyed more than a few industries ,to the detriment of the purchasing public. Health care insurance in the US as an example.
     
  3. CutOnce

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    I've found that more often than not accumulation of money is the result of being in the right place at the right time. Being born to the right people is a good idea as well. Being born in the right place helps as well.

    Money likes to be concentrated in high piles with the smallest number of people involved. People with money are very reluctant to let someone else's pile grow at their expense. Money has no sense of fair and no conscience.

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  4. daiquiri
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    daiquiri Engineering and Design

    Lol, well said. :D
    The reason for this state of facts is simple. Money tends to accumulate in few pockets because it's people with money who make the rules of the game.
     
  5. bigbowen
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    EU.......Socialist elites!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    stop it you're killing me HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  6. Alik
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    Not only trial and error.
     
  7. Alik
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    I do not talk about monopolization. I talk about industrial association as standard of quality an professionalism. Customers are still free to order boats from designers and builders, from hairdressers or from street food sellers :p
     
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    re CE approval, did anything change after the keel fell off that boat in the uk and the probelm was the keel was outsourced and not built to the original design therfore the CE rating/approval was useless?

    I have seen a simialr item on a production boat here where the outboard engine installer has invented the steering connecter which is the most dangerous thing I have ever seen, I have warned the dealer it will kill someone one day yet the dealer says its CE approved so no problem.
    I like the US system of the hull and then each item having USCG aproval.
    CE doesnt seem to do it that way is that a fair comment?
     
  9. frank smith
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    Sounds like organized crime to me .:D
     
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    I used to get the Coast Guard recall lists. It was amazing how many well engineered boat were on it. Many for level flotation problems , some for improper venting. But things are getting better as less boats are being produced here. Any thoughts about boats coming from China ?
     
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    Ah, the chicken or the egg.
     
  12. powerabout
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    I had a mate that made ski boats for the us market (in OZ)and as long as he continued to use same spec and all the componets I guess all boats complied.
    ( Tough market one slip and you're out)
    Most of the components were US sourced.
    You could do the same thing anywhere but I cant see the Chinese wanting to use quality componets to do that maybe foreign owned factory in China could?
     
  13. upchurchmr
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    The mindless search for conforimity and a level sea of mediocracy goes on and on and on. Who else but regulators could have destroyed boat building in the US so quickly. And that includes the infintile minds behind ISO, etc, etc.

    Does anyone wonder just how the USA (who at least believed themselves to be the inovators of the world) became people who generally can't imagine doing anything for themselves?

    Obviously I'm not talking about people in this and similar forums, I'm talking about my neighbors and coworkers in an engineering business, on the whole. I offered to give some hand tools to a young well respected design engineer I work with and had to explain the function of 70% of them.

    I'm going to start looking for a forum on starships, so I can escape.

    Sorry, I said I would not follow this forum, no more whinning, today.
     
  14. Submarine Tom

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    starshipdesign.net, check it out upchurchmr...

    -Tom
     

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    It's like I posted previous, design what you want if you don't have the hand skills or find the handskills to build it the result will be alot less than visioned. It's the combination of co-operation between the two arts that paint the picture.
    As for world economics, it's based on two simple examples, The Golden rule, them with the gold rules and the pyramid of marbles-- those few at the top have to keep those many below in place otherwise it all comes crashing down. Thats exactly whats happening now with the collapse of the middle class. Those greedy ******** on top have ate it up and turned it into the lower economics who can't afford to support them or the country so it all comes crashing down. Money based on paper is worth nothing if there is, no paper. --Geo.
     
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