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What is low-tech, you ask? Basically, no pre-preg, no vacuum, no autoclave and no mandrel. Pretty much a backyard build with hand lay-up and wet out. And what? No mandrel? Well, maybe not entirely true, but we’ll get back to that.
I’m on a quest to build a carbon fiber rig for my 24’ split-rig, trailer-sailer that I am finishing the build on. It currently has two masts and wishbone booms made of Douglas fir that weigh in at about 210 lbs total for both. 123 lbs for the main and 84 lbs for the mizzen. I’ve been searching the web for information carbon spars and have found limited information and several dead and missing links to once available information. There are several resources for using woven carbon fiber sleeves, but strand orientation in these sleeves is not really suitable in most spar type applications. My greatest, most suitable resource has been Eric Sponberg’s paper on freestanding carbon fiber masts and other related information conveyed on his website.
https://www.ericwsponberg.com/articles/
More specifically,
https://www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/design-engineering-masts.pdf
His paper and website is a treasure trove of information regarding carbon fiber spars and freestanding masts. There were three tidbits off information that I found extremely useful in designing my layup. 1) Minimum wall thickness needs to be at least 3% of section size, 2) 24 oz. of hoop direction S or E glass should be utilized on the inner and outer surfaces and can be counted towards the overall wall thickness 3) The thinnest section (wall thickness) should not be any less than 50% of the thickest section. Now, I’ve left out a lot of information and this isn’t a thread on spar design. I’m only trying to give some background for my build choices.
Let’s talk about my no mandrel comment. Anybody that works with composites knows that you need a mold of some sort. This can be a mandrel, a mold, the part you want to copy or even a flat surface depending on the shape you want to create. When it spars and masts, the mandrel is a great way to go if you plan to build multiple units. It does however, have its drawbacks: cost and shape limitations to name two. Another option that was offer on the Sponberg website was a wooden core of thin plywood and other elements that would become an integral part of the mast, but this has a weigh penalty that made the carbon spar comparable in weigh to other materials. Another undesirable outcome.
After much thought, I finally had a light go on and I am hoping it is the alternative method I’m looking for. If you will recall, one of the three tidbits of information I found highly useful was the 24 oz. of hoop direction fiberglass used on the inner and outer surfaces of the spar. So......what if we build a mold (or half mold) of our desired spar and made a “splash” of each half of the mold and rejoined the splashes? So here we go. I’m calling it the split, splash system. Picture to clarify my statements.
Here we have my boomkin, wrapped in packing tape, being used as a mold. Only three sides are are wrappedcovered with glass as I will pull this splash off, turn the boomkin over and splash the direction.
Here we have the opposing splashes along with their boomkin mold. I had some 27 oz. triax laying around that worked really nice in making these splashes.
Here the two halves are being refitted after trimming off the rough edges and establishing about a 1 1/2” overlapping joint. I chose to have both legs of one splash lay up inside both legs of the other to provide a mutual compression against each other. I laid out a hole pattern with 3” or 4” spacing using a smallish size drill bit to make the pilot holes. The holes in the outer splash were later drilled to 1/4” and 1/4” pan head sheet metal screws were used to provide clamping force when the two halves were epoxied together. I used a medium viscosity resin to wet out both mating surfaces without thickening the resin.
An inside shot of my spar. Probably before glue up.
It’s little labor intensive, but the results so far have been quite acceptable. So, no mandrel and the core form for my spar will be an integral and require element of the completed spar.
More to come.
I’m on a quest to build a carbon fiber rig for my 24’ split-rig, trailer-sailer that I am finishing the build on. It currently has two masts and wishbone booms made of Douglas fir that weigh in at about 210 lbs total for both. 123 lbs for the main and 84 lbs for the mizzen. I’ve been searching the web for information carbon spars and have found limited information and several dead and missing links to once available information. There are several resources for using woven carbon fiber sleeves, but strand orientation in these sleeves is not really suitable in most spar type applications. My greatest, most suitable resource has been Eric Sponberg’s paper on freestanding carbon fiber masts and other related information conveyed on his website.
https://www.ericwsponberg.com/articles/
More specifically,
https://www.ericwsponberg.com/wp-content/uploads/design-engineering-masts.pdf
His paper and website is a treasure trove of information regarding carbon fiber spars and freestanding masts. There were three tidbits off information that I found extremely useful in designing my layup. 1) Minimum wall thickness needs to be at least 3% of section size, 2) 24 oz. of hoop direction S or E glass should be utilized on the inner and outer surfaces and can be counted towards the overall wall thickness 3) The thinnest section (wall thickness) should not be any less than 50% of the thickest section. Now, I’ve left out a lot of information and this isn’t a thread on spar design. I’m only trying to give some background for my build choices.
Let’s talk about my no mandrel comment. Anybody that works with composites knows that you need a mold of some sort. This can be a mandrel, a mold, the part you want to copy or even a flat surface depending on the shape you want to create. When it spars and masts, the mandrel is a great way to go if you plan to build multiple units. It does however, have its drawbacks: cost and shape limitations to name two. Another option that was offer on the Sponberg website was a wooden core of thin plywood and other elements that would become an integral part of the mast, but this has a weigh penalty that made the carbon spar comparable in weigh to other materials. Another undesirable outcome.
After much thought, I finally had a light go on and I am hoping it is the alternative method I’m looking for. If you will recall, one of the three tidbits of information I found highly useful was the 24 oz. of hoop direction fiberglass used on the inner and outer surfaces of the spar. So......what if we build a mold (or half mold) of our desired spar and made a “splash” of each half of the mold and rejoined the splashes? So here we go. I’m calling it the split, splash system. Picture to clarify my statements.
Here we have my boomkin, wrapped in packing tape, being used as a mold. Only three sides are are wrappedcovered with glass as I will pull this splash off, turn the boomkin over and splash the direction.
Here we have the opposing splashes along with their boomkin mold. I had some 27 oz. triax laying around that worked really nice in making these splashes.
Here the two halves are being refitted after trimming off the rough edges and establishing about a 1 1/2” overlapping joint. I chose to have both legs of one splash lay up inside both legs of the other to provide a mutual compression against each other. I laid out a hole pattern with 3” or 4” spacing using a smallish size drill bit to make the pilot holes. The holes in the outer splash were later drilled to 1/4” and 1/4” pan head sheet metal screws were used to provide clamping force when the two halves were epoxied together. I used a medium viscosity resin to wet out both mating surfaces without thickening the resin.
An inside shot of my spar. Probably before glue up.
It’s little labor intensive, but the results so far have been quite acceptable. So, no mandrel and the core form for my spar will be an integral and require element of the completed spar.
More to come.





