Buccaneer 28 Trimaran plans.

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. El_Guero

    El_Guero Previous Member

    Awesome!
     
  2. joonas
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    Offshore experience?

    Does anyone have any offshore experience with the Buc 28?
    Is the boat suitable for offshore use?
    How does it cope with bad wether, rough wave conditions etc?
    How is the motion of the boat in these conditions?
    Can you sleep, cook and eat when it's rough?
    I'm grateful for any first hand information. My personal offshore experience is limited to monohulls.
     
  3. El_Guero

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    That will depend upon your seasickness tolerance .... more than the Buc 28, I think.
     
  4. oldsailor7
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    Has anybody actually produced any full size paper plans that the boat can be built from, yet. :?:
     
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    El_Guero, seasickness tolerance is, as you suggest, individual. Most people are sensitive in the range 0.5-1 Hz (heaving motion). But seasickness is not the only concern when it comes to a boats offshore abilities, not even when it comes to the comfort aboard. For instance jerky motions and large accelerations can stop you from doing anything but holding on to the boat.

    I'm very interested to hear about any offshore or rough conditions experience with the 28.
     
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    I haven't printed in full scale yet, but intend to do so. I had a first look at the pdf:s a few days ago, and I believe their just fine to build from. A little bit of detective work is needed in some places, but it's absolutely not rocket science to get it right. Even my A4 test prints on a regular office printer looked better than expected. My next step is to print them on A3 (35-70% scale depending the sheet). I will use the A3 prints to identify faded areas where the levels need to be adjusted, or things filled in. I also want to identify the hand written comments made by the builder (I believe), so that I can remove them before printing in full scale. Finally, I want to remove the extended stern that has been drawn in by someone. When all this is done, I will print them in full scale a reputable print shop.
     
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    Joonas said:- I'm very interested to hear about any offshore or rough conditions experience with the 28.

    In the 1977 Summerville overnight race on Lake Ontario, (an inland sea), it was the worst conditions we had ever experienced in any boat, let alone a B28.
    It was a wild, black, ferocious stormy night. The wind was strong, the waves were 3M high, sharp edged and short spaced, a horrible combination. Two monohulls lost their masts and three their rudders. A home designed, homebuilt 40ft Catamaran broke up and sank. We had on a double reefed main and storm jib and could still sail to windward. Our floats had leaking hatches and over the 15 hours of the race we took on board over 100 galls of water, which naturally made the boat quite sluggish. Lesson learned, use only proprietary watertight metal rimmed hatches in the amas.
    However at no time did we ever feel unsafe and the boat survived without any damage. We wore wet weather gear, safety harness and life jackets and the motion when taking the wind and waves broadside was pretty awful.
    Believe me, in a really bad situation the boat can take more than the crew can.
     
  8. El_Guero

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    I would suggest OS7 answer, but alas, I am too late!
     
  9. bruceb
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    33 builder?

    OS, do you have any idea what builder built/finished "TriDave's" B-33 "Troika" ? He has posted before, and now I see it is for sale in Florida, USA. It appears similar but not at all the same as my "new" 33.
    On another note, a friend has been examining the 28 plans- they enlarge just fine, and there are a lot of similar details to the 33. I wish I could have found a 28 ;)
    B
     
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    Bruce and TriDave.
    We built three B33's. One , which is the one you have Bruce, was basic and was fitted out to completion by Paul Web, and named "Robinknox". She was sailed and raced in Toronto for a few years and then was sold into the US. The second one was again built to basic state for a German doctor in Sarnia, Ontario. That one was given a second layer of F/glass/epoxy at the Doctors request. He had a fellow complete the fitting out, who de-camped with all the Drs tools and equipment. However the boat was completed and the Dr, who was an inexperienced sailor, on-sold it after his first experience sailing it, as its speed scared him. I don't know if that one is "Troika".
    The third one was sold to a crazy guy in eastern Ontario who considered the transom was too high out of the water and cut the main hull down the middle from gunnel to keel, to lower the transom. I don't know what happened to that one, or if it ever reached the water. :eek:
    A bog standard plywood B33 from plans and materials supplied by us was built in Toronto and is still sailing there.
    Bruce, are your crossbeams round or oval?.
     
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    Bruce.
    I just found a pic of Dave Lathams wooden B33 and his has round tube cross arms. If you google Toronto Multihull Cruising Club, and go to their Archives and History you can see lots of interesting stuff. :cool:
     
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    Old Bucs

    Patrick, Thanks for the Toronto link. Lots of history :)
    Both my 33 and "Troika" have the custom Alcan oval beams, so is Troika possibly the "German Doc's" boat? How could we identify it?
    Trokia looks like a nice project boat for someone, with much of the heavy work already done.
    Bruce
     
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    More Troika

    After studying the pics more, it appears the early photos show an extended waterline/transom with a reverse "hook" under the waterline, so maybe Troika is the "other" modified 33/?? .
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    Could be Bruce. Both had the Alcan oval beams. Maybe the other guy didn't go through with cutting up the hull and put a "hook" in the tail end. I don't really know what happened as both Lock and I distanced ourselves from his "Improvements". :eek:
     

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    Thanks for sharing your experience OS7!
     
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