Buccaneer 24 Builders Forum

Discussion in 'Multihulls' started by oldsailor7, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. oldsailor7
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    oldsailor7 Senior Member

    PHTCA.
    I can't do that because I am not able to reveal other peoples private information without their approval. If builders want to share information about their builds they are free to do so on this thread.
    That's what the thread was started for. Why don't you ask some questions ?
    I am sure there are plenty of people ready to help so long as you keep on topic. :cool:
     
  2. PHTCA
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    PHTCA Junior Member

    OS7, i knew it, i am just trying to give to US some breath with the information like "THERE ARE 20 BUILDERS NOW", so, we can take a lot of inspiration and start own buccaneer. I think, some people are stopped because they think are alone. If i know in this forum about other builders, i also know i will have some reply to my questions when i build mine. I just want to know, if you can share with us, stimated builders at this time. You can find in yahoo groups builders of cars, planes, telescopes, etc. So, why we can not share building questions.
     
  3. freddyj
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    inboard engine in buc24?

    Has anyone used a small inboard motor in a buc24? Is there room for one? Was thinking it would be nice to have an onboard generator.
     
  4. DennisRB
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  5. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Inboard?

    Fred, There is "space" for a small inboard under the cockpit- but the 24 is very sensitive to extra weight and drag, so I would not think an inboard to be a very good idea. The 24 as designed is a very simple and light tri, and to be successful, needs to be kept and used that way. Most 5-8 hp outboards have charging available, and with LEDs, a solar panel and a small battery will take care of lighting and other light loads.
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  6. buzzman
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    Judging by the apparent conditon that's not a bad price, but I couldn't see if it included a trailer, which might cost between $2000 and $4000 depending on whether you bought second hand or new.

    Or else needs to be kep permanently on a mooring, so an inflatable and outboard is required, which also don't appear to be included.

    I'd confirm all the electronics are operable, as that may also affect the price - they're not cheap to replace.

    Also it's clear there is some chipping to the pain on the ribs in the forecastle, so it probably hasn't had a repaint for awhile, and it's hard to tell from the pics how good/bad the rest of it is. Definitley get it slipped and inspect it thoroughly. PLy boats can look great from 10ft away but be completely rotten. Not saying this one is.....just saying...

    But going by what others have been asking for similar boats recently, it would appear to be a reasonable price for what it is. $16 to $24K I've seen people "asking" - but whether they're getting those prices is another thing altogether.

    Given that the slightly smaller ply and/or glass Farriers seem to go for about $8 to $14K in similar condition, I'd say this is not a bad deal...if the hull is sound etc etc.
     
  7. redreuben
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  8. buzzman
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    Yeah, that one's been for sale for *ages*....

    My guess is it's the "plywood factor" and thus limited appeal to modern boat buyers, and the lack of trailer which means a mooring required.

    Moorings on the east coast, especially in Sydney , are neither easy to come by nor specially cheap.

    At $10K I'd call that bloody good value, even without the trailer, and you know you'll get it for $9K if you made an offer.

    Hell, I've seen basket case Farriers go for $7.5K, so $10 K for a Bucc 24 is sweet.
     
  9. bruceb
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    a few things

    Dennis, It is hard to tell too much from the photo, but to me, the waterline seems a little close the the water stays- as in it looks heavy. Of course, I can't see the bow, and there may be equipment and/or water making the stern appear low. The 24 should float with both bow and stern knuckles at or above the water with the "normal" sailing equipment on board. Two or three inches above would be best.:)
    Rot can start anywhere, but the area under the float beam saddles seems to be very prone to rot from rain water getting in around the beam attachment bolts. Check them well, as repairing them requires major deck surgery on the floats. The rear beam saddle on the main hull, the base of the dagger trunk and around the mast step also deserve a good inspection.
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  10. bruceb
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    bruceb Senior Member

    Values

    I wish my 24 was for sale in Aus, I will be lucky to get 4K US for mine, with a trailer. Older wooden boats have very little resale value in the USA right now, so there are some good deals to be had here.
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  11. jamez
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    13 k might be a bit optimistic if it hasn't sold by now. Big expenditure on old boats can be rig and sails. This one appears to have had that taken care of. If the platform checks out as being largely sound, the sails and other gear are good, and that big chunk of 4 stroke outboard works the way it should, I reckon its a good buy even at the asking price.

    Does anyone trailer these boats regularly? All the B24s over here are permanently moored.
     
  12. buzzman
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    Bruce

    A know aid to selling anyhting that moves is video. Take your 24 out on a windy day and get some video of its 'moves'....will help sell it for sure!
     
  13. freddyj
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    mast question

    Would a mast from a Hobie 20 work on a Buc? Or are Hobie masts not appropriate? I'm hoping to start on my build this winter so I've been busy asking stupid questions, please forgive me. I always have to have my mind completely wrapped around a project before I start.
     
  14. oldsailor7
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    The Hobie beach cats don't have the sort of RM that the Bucc 24 does, even the H20. Therefore the H20 mast is probably too weak for the B24, especially since the mast shrouds on the B24 also help hold the amas up. Puts a lot of compression load on the mast. What are the specs of the Hobie 20 mast? Most importantly the wall thickness.
    You should try and find a second hand mast with a small dim section of not less than 4 1/2", or use the tube section specified in the plans.
    I used 4 /1/2" 6061T6 alloy tubing, with sail track riveted on, on my B24.
    Was a great pocket cruiser, but still won lots of races. :)
     

  15. freddyj
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    re: mast

    Thanks, oldsailor. I was just thinking if I could buy one off another boat it would be easier, cause it would already have the fittings and such.
     
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