Boatdesigner/engineer looking for a job

Discussion in 'Services & Employment' started by sushkin, Aug 3, 2013.

  1. sushkin
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    sushkin Junior Member

    Hello,
    I'm an engineer/boat designer and i am looking for a job in boatbuilding industry. I have finished National Shipbuilding University of Ukraine and have 3 years of working experience at the yard.
    Current skills:
    - 3d modeling in Rhinoceros
    - hydrostatic, weight and stability calculations
    - strength and stiffness calculations
    - hullform design
    - scantlings design
    - operating 3-axis CNC milling machine
    - photoreal render in 3Ds max and Vray

    also
    - Hand lay, laminating work and production of plugs
    - precise mixing and use of resins, fibres and plastic materials
    - use of hand tools

    A little bit of my works:
    Project YM650
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    Project YM750/concept YM750R
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    Untitled project
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    Icelandic Projects
    [​IMG]
    Drawings
    [​IMG]
    Plugs
    [​IMG]
    Me
    [​IMG]
     
  2. jswanhr
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    jswanhr New Member

    Hello,

    Do you have any interest or experience in manufaturing Rigid Hull Inflatables ?

    Regards,

    Joelle
     
  3. sushkin
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    sushkin Junior Member

    Hello, Joelle!
    Thanx, I'm interested in RIBs. I wrote to your email.
     
  4. sushkin
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    sushkin Junior Member

    Up up)
     
  5. sushkin
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    sushkin Junior Member

  6. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    Nice copy. But note that our design is patented in Russia.
     
  7. sushkin
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    sushkin Junior Member

    Sorry) The customer insisted on making stairs like on Alik's cat. I will tell him that it's forbidden by the law) But I'm in a doubt that it would ever be built especially this way.
     
  8. TANSL
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    That's not correct, sushkin. If you copy one thing you must do so with the permission of the creator and making it clear that you have copied. So instead of saying "A little bit of my works" should specify what is yours and what is not. Even if you have not broken a law, it is ethically questionable. I do not think, sorry for such a hard opinion, an honest way to self promote yourself.
    Of all the things you've shown us, which are very nice, what are yours and which ones are not?
     
  9. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    Here is the patent. I strongly recommend You customer to think twice prior to building this boat, it might end up with the legal case...
     

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  10. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    I'm curious Alik, what part of the "design" has actually been patented?
     
  11. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    This is design patent. Covered is complex of essential features - the appearance. In this case, bow ramp and cockpit in their shape are 1:1 copy of ours.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeC75NjidJA - see the original.
     
  12. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    There in lies my question.

    The bow rap is nothing new. It's been done on many cats for decades, it is standard method of disembarking from the bow....we did it on some our boats in the early 80s. And you'll find many vessels with the same.

    Even on monohulls like the CB 90H:

    bow ramp-3.JPG

    Patents have been tried before by others too, noted here:
    http://www.google.co.uk/patents/US7137350

    Small cats such as here:
    http://sarn.firetrench.com/2011/12/for-sale-catamaran-vessel-bjorksundet/

    and the larger cats we did, and also those by INCAT:
    http://www.incatcrowther.com/search-result

    ... there are more than I can shake a stick at!

    I'm not sure what is "unique" for a patent, for the cockpit too. Can you explain?...hence my curiosity. Since such 'design' features would not be permitted a patent in that sense in the UK...its been around for decades, nothing unique. Copyright..ahh, that's another matter.

    Hence the question, is Russia patenting design features differently...where it may be more of a simple copyright of using someone's drawings, per se.
     
  13. gonzo
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    gonzo Senior Member

    Design patents are about the particular shape of an object. For example, a soda bottle. They are not patenting bottles in general, but a design of a bottle
     
  14. Alik
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    Alik Senior Member

    2AdHoc: gonzo is right. Here patented is particular shape, i.e. appearance. It is very clear that appearance of bow ramp and bow area in every small detail are taken from our design.
     

  15. Ad Hoc
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    Ad Hoc Naval Architect

    In the UK...you can only copyright such a "shape". Since to call it a 'design patent', then it must be clearly demonstrated that its features are unique for it to function. Does it keep the rain out...yes...beyond that...it is just a shape and not a "design" feature in that sense, since it already keeps the rain out. Thus copyright....not patent.

    We've had our deigns copied for decades, just as we have copied ideas from others. It is nothing new..everyone plagiarises to some extent. Looking at endless different GA's one gets ideas, that is one of the roles of the NA...it is very very rare to have anything new and unique that requires a patent. Additionally patents stifle creativity....only helps lawyers bank accounts, no one else's!
     
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