Boat Capsize Evidence

Instead of throwing barbs, why don't one of you geniuses actually refute what i have said?

do either of you even know how to design a hull that doesn't have that fatal flaw???

 

May I tell you what? But keep it confident!

You are a proven idiot!

 

"You are a proven idiot!"

i'm a "proven idiot" who has logged over 90,000nm in open seas, 65,000nm in a boat that i designed and built. You will not find a more prolific small boater than myself--some people actually use their design, othere sit around and talk about it...

I stand by my assertion and if you unable to refute what i have said, then why even bother to reply?

 

Well let me excuse for the "proven"..............


and reading a thread before contributing is sometimes a sensible way!
You will notice why your comment was so welcome as it was.

 

Hmm...where to go today? shall we take the Bahrain lake launch or the Indonesian ferry...thanks..but I'll swim instead...or maybe opt for the Bahrain lake launch before the Indonesian ferry....these types of third-world operations kill thousands every year...people in these countries die like flies on these death taxis...and it is sad because the governments are so corrupt that any regulating bodies (i,e, coast guard,etc) have officials that are usually bribed easily in order to obtain operating permits...etc...by the way...we seem to have gone a couple years here now in the states without one of these old touristy WWII amphib duck taxis becoming submarines....

 

Mamlakat al-Bahrain

is smaller than the city of Hamburg and has NO LAKE !!! If there is a "lake" it is to small to have a boat floating on it.

The whole thread is a hoax! And Paul and I mentioned that more than once.

Regards
Richard

 

'Peacekeepers' from some 'first-world' countries kill even more...

 

what i noticed was no one here, YOU included are able to refute what i said. I rest my case.

Have a nice day!

 

So true...........so true! But their claims are nice!

And at the end they "accomplish" their missions. Or something like that.

 

Loveof sea, you supposition is absurd and the likely reason no one has responded other then to poke fun at the ridiculousness of it. Currently I have 76 different designs to my credit and dozens under construction around the world including several forum members. So, how did you solve this poorly defined weakness ("transom capsizes" are all new to me, but then what do I know), that only you seem to recognize?

 

Paul,

backing multihulls you know! They are all in danger of capsizing over the transom!

I sometimes wonder where you learned your job.

Regards
Richard

 

Yikes~!

Do any of your designs provide for the safety factor of water accumulating in the belly rather than at the transom while at rest? That one single design factor could mean the difference between saving the vessel or losing it--the most precious seconds for action are the ones that immediately proceed a capsizing. Those moments are lost when the water goes straight to the transom... Hulls should be designed for worst case scenario, thats the concept behind level flotation. The problem with that is, it doesn't take effect until after the boat is swamped.


Virtually every capsizing of a small vessle is because of water coming in over the transom--that's because every one of those boats was in a bow up attitude before it capsized. And just why on earth was that boat in an exagerated bow up attitude if not that water accumulated at the transom....


It should be very simple for someone with your cridentials to show me where i am mistaken.

It would be nice to have a discussion based on the dynamics of a typical boat hull taking on water while at rest. It would be fun to learn the academics of it all

 

I honnestly read several time your "capsize by because of the transom" and I don't get it.
Could you post a serie of sketches.
I don't see the relevance of the transom on your equation, only in the case of a small outboard with cutout transom for the outboard and no baffle.
Beside that I am quite lost.
Cheers
Daniel

 

First of all, I can spell vessel, but more importantly this is grossly incorrect. The figures clearly show (from every source BTW) this is quite incorrect, but hay, why be accurate when you're making broad generalities about things you don't understand and insult those that do.

Of course Loveofsea does realize the requirements for capacity, buoyancy or flotation in a swamped condition, splash well mandates, etc.

Of course Loveof sea hasn't considered a pump removing accumulated water from a centrally located sump, is just as effective as the same size and style pump mounted in a well at the transom, as is currently practiced. Now, in his defense, most off the shelf pumps can't keep up with a good rain shower, but this is a different story.

Franky, I haven't the time nor interest (this is a lousy format for that level of education), but if you have specific questions . . .

I've been in literally dozens of capsizes, some intentionally induced. I'm not sure how many you've been in or witness to, but the boat doesn't just hop up in the air and flip over like a mullet trying to escape the jaws of a dolphin. You have time and can make decisions, unless it's a canoe, kayak or you've foolishly stepped on the rail of a 7' yacht tender, attempting to get in.

Maybe you should try to offer the ISO or other guide or standard(s) that you feel needs revision, possibly a better explanation, because currently your stock of the scenario described is questionable, at least as you've worded it or attempted to covey to us thus far.

 

how about just ONE source~

level floatation as an industry norm, why not level sinking?