Are You Personally Prepared For a Natural Disaster?

Discussion in 'All Things Boats & Boating' started by Submarine Tom, May 2, 2012.

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  1. Frosty

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    Thanks hoyt but god had nothing to do with it --it was Rolls Royce and 5 years at Halifax polytecnic, Preston technical college and Backpool college of mechanical engeering

    When you get things mixed up and out of order you do a good job too.
     
  2. pdwiley
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    I caught something the other day about someone getting killed and a payback attack on the relatives followed, with conspicuous absence of police/troops until it was all over. Situation normal, not newsworthy I suppose.

    My only use for major centres is specialised shopping. ATM I'm in Sydney to fix some stuff for other people and avoid the worst of the Tas winter. Hobart is without doubt the nicest of all the Aus capitals. If I can't park within 2 blocks of where I want to be, something is badly wrong. Even the parking fines are cheap.

    Gizo would be nice, I never managed to get there. I can't see why using drums won't work for you, more clutter and probably mainly deck cargo so your VCOG goes up, but if that's what the dollars dictate, that's what you do.

    As I don't like bugs and living in a malaria zone you'll have no competition from me for anchorages in that part of the world. Once I get the boat in the water I plan on swanning about Tasmania for a while. Lots of anchorages, few people, nice islands, civilised environment.

    Pity about the weather a lot of the time.

    PDW
     
  3. Frosty

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    You don't have mozies in Tasmania? you sure?
     
  4. pdwiley
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    We don't have *malaria carrying mosquitoes* in Tasmania. Also not all that many other bugs due to the cool climate.

    There's some tiny little ******** of sand flies at my place but only a problem around summer, dawn & dusk. Most of the year, no problem at all.

    Long term survival - stay out of malaria zones. The drugs aren't good for you either and if they run out, what then?

    Bring back DDT.

    PDW
     
  5. longcours62
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    longcours62 Junior Member

    Turtle price $$$$


    If the Turtle is too expensive with the high level of Australian $ you can buy a French
    made you can see them at
    :http://www.musthane.com/group/who-we-are
    and models at :
    http://www.musthane.com/brands/muststore
    It will seam cheaper with your $ level:p
     
  6. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    Masalai
    Check your local hospital for saline solution kegs.
    In the USA, hospitals buy saline solution in 30 gallon drums/kegs. It's a heavy walled polyethylene 30 gal bottle, ecapsulated in a rigid fiberboard drum shaped shell.
    I don't know how they are disposed of in Oz, but they are free for the asking in US. They're 'garbage' once empty.
    Some resin painted on the fiberboard will keep it water and damp resistant for months.
    Is it 'legal' to use these as temporary fuel tanks? check regs. Maybe need RED resin. But the plastic inside the shell, is heavier than you see in commercially sold fuel cans.
    Hope this helps.
     
  7. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Hi Yobarnacle,
    As far as I know "normal saline" is delivered in sealed ready to use 1 litre ready to hang with sterile tubing and flow-control-valves attached - delivered in 'sterile wrapped' cartons... Never seen anything even resembling such containers in 30 gal sizes...

    But I will check at the local hospital - just in case. . . . .

    Several occasions I have seen 1 cubic metre externally reinforced with "arc-mesh" and plastic containers to hold glues for laminate processing (attaching "psudo teak flooring to marine plywood"), - or in carrying insecticide for use in insect control or OR glyphosate-360 for weed control work....

    Hi longcours62,
    Freight from Europe is an absolute KILLER... Propellers made there more than double in price when sold here in OZ... That is a WTF problem even from USA - I think Neptune demands a very high tariff on goods passing to the Southern Hemisphere, unless attached to the Northern hemisphere, - - or is there a heavy toll to cross the Pacific and Indian Oceans? - -

    Thanks to both, for your consideration and research
     
  8. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Carbon Based Life Form

    It was the same at the surgery center where I worked.
     
  9. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    You are thinking of intravenous hydration drip. :)
    Check with a hospital with a burn center and/or hydro-therapy.
    They buy sterile saline in LARGER bottles for immersion treatments. :)

    But I imagine LOTS of different containers would be suitable for SHORT term storage for a voyage.
    Metal drums are only short term. At sea, they rust out in a few months. (from personal experience. :) )

    In Mexico, sturdy plastic 5 gallon water cooler bottles cost 3$. Molded in handle on side. Only cost 4$ full of water. :) And they DELIVER!

    I don't know how many water tanks you have. Maybe convert one water tank to fuel. Whatever is more crucial.
    Replace the lost water capacity with water cooler bottles. Easy to shift about for trim! :) Also bottles easy to transport ashore. Coral islands usually have a 'lens' of subsurface fresh water, accessible from a shallow hand dug well. Survival tactics! :)
     
  10. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Ahhhh, Thanks Yo, I do not know if the local hospitals have 'burns units' - - Maybe in Brisbane??? and parking is an issue... I will bear that in mind...


    Not Honiara but Vila possibly? - - http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-building/my-little-piece-peace-25962-143.html#post558111 has the links I found...
     
  11. mreoe4sure
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    mreoe4sure who me

    MAS, I don"t know if this will help in your search, or not what your looking for. I use to see 40 to 50 gal plastic drums quite often, they were use for fruit juice containers. If something like this might work for you , when your in Bris look in the manufacture area and see if they have and food processing manufactures. Orange juice , apple juice etc are transported in concentrate to be mixed . Ice cream , juice mixes etc. They seem to have 100s in their yard waiting to be sent back and be filled again. Steve
     
  12. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Hi Steve,
    trustafarian land - - where dot mon? near Jamaica?

    Thanks for all the thought and direction re fuel containers...

    I have plenty - - well at present enough, (20 x 25 litre 'square' containers (500 litres) and 40 'cube' containers in the same style holding 20 litres each (800 litres)... I was satisfied with these but figured a couple of "turtle-packs" would be nice - but they are a bit expensive for my pocket at present...

    ON FUEL PRICING:
    It appears that the cost of fuel is falling - - not as fast as in USA as the purchasing power of the Au$ is also falling against the US$, (with which fuel is priced internationally)... Australian fuel is priced in Singapore (TAPIS) but still expressed in US$ ???

    - - I do not know why the Australian 'talking heads' and other fools who can only read teleprompters on mainstream TV, - having no connection with the real world, - persist in quoting WTI ? - as that is not available outside USA, - and why they persist in using US$ for TAPIS - - - - - and while I am having a grizzle... - Why US$ is used to price gold and silver bullion when ALL bullion in Australia is set by the LBMA "fix" and in Australia, one can only buy from dealers quoting in AU$ - - WTF - -
     
  13. Boston

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    e gads, trustaferians
    I lived in Boulder for years
    I'm so sick of trustaferians I could just puke hearing the term.
     
  14. Frosty

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    Not a clue what it is , I could google it I suppose but I cant be bothered

    Its not a religious belief is it?
     

  15. Yobarnacle
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    Yobarnacle Senior Member holding true course

    Would you prefer catching your own 'fish', Masalai, rather than buying it?

    A possible worthwhile avocation and occupation, for a waterbourne recluse or seclusionist, might be searching for alluvial gold.
    The necessary equipment is minimal, and at near 2000$ an ounce, under the "prudent man" rule, many formerly low producing areas are now suitable for staking gold claims. :)

    "In the United States, a placer claim grants to the discoveror of valuable minerals contained in loose material such as sand or gravel the right to mine on public land. Other countries such as Canada, Mexico, and Australia grant similar rights."

    "An additional requirement is "Discovery", which follows the "Prudent Man Rule." This means that a sufficient indication of valuable mineral(s) would encourage a "Prudent Man" to further invest time and money developing the deposit towards the goal of mining it."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_placer_claim

    http://www.tysaustralia.com/goldrushtasmania.html

    http://www.upfromaustralia.com/sovhilgolrus.html


    For this and more reasons, my motor-sailor is trailerable, shoal draft, and small enough to ascend small tributaries. :)
    A one oz gold coin is slightly bigger than a US quarter, though heavier. Cut into 100 pcs, each would be roughly $20 value. How much gold 'flake" would you need to pan per day to be 'Worth Your While"? :) About 60 flakes per ounce.
     
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