Are You Personally Prepared For a Natural Disaster?

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  1. Boston

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    grand kids ?
    all we need to do is keep doing what we are now and in two generations ( one every 30 years I think was at least once the norm ) we're going to be well into the climate doomsday scenario, and well past the resource depletion turmoil predicted by the MIT group. We're at worst case scenerio with CO2 emissions, which means we're going to hit the +6°C mark long before the end of the century, which is "the" end of life as we know it mark. And oil runs out even sooner. We're entirely likely to get slammed by a number of things we've been putting off for quite some time now, long before grand kids even hit the ground.

    Realizing that every generation has its share of dooms dayers, its interesting to note that we do seem to be on the verge of some very critical realities. Damn interesting times but if even one of these events takes place, we're not looking to sharp for moving gracefully into the next century.
     
  2. Frosty

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    I think ille go live in Iran. Maybe not Iran but some where people are punished for thier crimes and kill murderers and rapists.

    It worked before and now life is not as good, I say we go back.

    Lifes hard enough without scroungers, frauds and thieves.
     
  3. bntii
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    I remember being chided quite sharply some years back on this forum for poohooing 'peak oil' when it was first being bandied about.
    There was a thread which was posting a whole series of lectures by some self proclaimed expert who intoned in a very serious voice over how the collapse would occur as society fell apart in 2007....

    "Didn't you listed to the lecture I just posted"! "You are in denial"....

    Sure- salinization of arable lands, phosphate shortages, liquid petroleum reserves pull downs etc etc...

    Challenges exist and will be met as we move forward.
    "End of life as we know it" is perhaps a bit strong for my tastes..

    Yob you listening?
    You seem to enjoy a good conspiracy theory-Here's one for you-
    If you were a large influential government and knew that falling oil reserves were going to take down agriculture and transportation of food to population centers, how would you posture information?

    Scarcity and hoarding or too dangerous to use the stuff.

    They chose the later- fossil fuels are going to kill us all if we don't stop using them visa vie CLIMATE CHANGE!
    The resultant global reduction in use is hoped to buy us time till alternatives can be implemented to our food production and transportation apparatus.
     
  4. Boston

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    uh, I see no lecture posted in your last, no link ?

    The lecture I was thinking of when I mentioned peak oil was given by an old professor of mine from CU who was mostly talking about exponential doubling and resource management. Not specifically about oil but he does touch on the subject.
     
  5. Frosty

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    Oil will not run out, we will have moved on.

    The stone age ended not because we ran out of stones.
     
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    SheetWise All Beach -- No Water.

    I have no idea how people and governments will respond, but I can assure you that the financial collapse is in the very early stages, and politically appears to be irreversible. Unlike complex systems, accounting systems are quite simple to model -- on top of which, we have history as a guide.
     
  7. Boston

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    ya I didn't quite get that one either BNTII. Seems to me that our governments are helplessly spinning there wheels and have exactly no clue how to handle the coming storm.
     
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    I am not fully prepared but I am more than ready. Yes I am one of those nut-jobs that romanticizes the idea. I would like nothing more than to barely survive on rodents and cactus for a year or so while hopefully 90% of the population perishes around me. 90% being a low estimate for the percent of the population that I consider "zombies".
     
  10. bntii
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    Most folks are jubilant when they should be cautious and fearful when optimism might better serve.

    "The financial collapse is in the early stages and irreversible"

    I don't believe that

    "coming storm"

    I don't believe this either


    Were you guys paying attention as this was launching to the stars?:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Tiger

    Everyone should have started to worry more than a decade ago- some leading economist were.
    Wringing of hands just now is a bit too little too late.
    I did hear a commentator from Ireland bemoaning the housing market there:

    "Oh my, yes housing prices are stabilizing here but I don't know that they will ever be like they were in 2005..."

    Well I should hope not.
    And really so should that person.
    What did they have?- price multiples of 8x earnings or so?

    B-

    "ya I didn't quite get that one either BNTII."

    There is nothing to get outside of the fact that it is 5 years after the drop dead date from "peak oil" according to some of the worse pundits and we are all still here.
    Sooner or later folks, we all just have no other choice but to carry on.
    Why not start now?
     
  11. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    "Peak Oil" is a term that is often misunderstood, It does not mean a sudden "drop-dead" date, just that the rate of finding new is less than the rate of consumption so from "that date" the supplies of oil are diminishing, as any new discoveries are less than the depletion rate... Oil is a finite resource... It is not regenerated at a rate anywhere near consumption...

    But there are other avenues http://www.moneymorning.com.au/20120516/get-in-early-to-shale-gas.html and resources of shale gas are growing faster than consumption - - See attachment and link...
     

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    Yes- I understand that clearly.
    Some reporters apparently did not and gave the most dire predictions over the influence diminishing supply would have on our immediate future.
    I will see if I can find the videos- they are worth a look for a good laugh.
    One of my good friends was an 'early adapter' and ran off to a farm years ago in the hopes of surviving the collapse of civilization as we know it due to 'peak oil'.

    poor lad- he always was an excitable sort...
     
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    I always remember the last 'swine flu' epidemic, it wasn't as serious as they feared, but the speed that it spread to even the 'safe/remote' areas like Tasmania, was just astounding.

    Try fighting a pandemic with guns and piano wire :rolleyes:
     
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    Come on - that's what the 'doomsday boat' is for!

    On a serious note - wander around the old Tasmanian cemeteries and look at the age cohorts & death toll just after WW1. Those days transport was literally in the horse & cart era.

    PDW
     

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