Affordable seaworthy cruiser

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  1. TeddyDiver
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    TeddyDiver Gollywobbler

    On route remember to watch for another genie on a raft trying to float around the world..
    Sorry if this sounds "a bit" sarcastic.. It's not
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  2. frank smith
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    Get a basic design together , then go from there . But dont get to attached to it, because the facts might not agree with your assumptions.
     
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    Years ago , my brother and i were looking at an old Alden designed boat . It was beautiful , but long past restoration . We went all over the world in it , and then got in the car and went home .
     
  4. goodwilltoall
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    Pierre,

    Post 93: If 600sf is not adequate to drive boat, how much would be? Was thinking 700sf but not sure how to accomplish this with triangular sails as most used sails are not low aspect.

    In regards to ballast ratio, how do you go about determining lines and weight distribution? Mentioned being able to recover from capsize as one form of stability desired and obviously able to handle adequate sailplan is another form.
     
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    Frank Smith,

    Post 95: Jubilee is the basic design and the only thing that I'm attached to is keeping the proportions of 50'-0" length, 8'-4" beam, and 5'-0" hull draft. Everything else can be changed as long as affordable and seaworthy are in the equation.
     
  6. wardd
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    what does affordable mean?
     
  7. dskira

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    The merry-go-round system :eek:

    Daniel
     
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    The ark on the site shown scales out to approximately 1 to 2.8 beam to length, but you're going 1 to 6. Why the difference?
     
  9. goodwilltoall
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    Post 99: Affordable means that for the building of jubilee total costs to be kept below $12,000.00.

    Post 101: SamSam, looked at picture and did wonder if it was in accordance with the 6 to 1 length. Pictures definitely show greater than 2.8 to 1.0, furthermore the build up of sediment around it may be contributing to it looking wider than it actually is.
    Still not sure if that is the actual Ark, you would think if they truly found the ark it would become a world heritage location.
     
  10. frank smith
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    What displacement are you looking for ? what is the the amount of rocker per foot? Do you have a rough Idea of hull weight ?
     
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    Frank Smith,

    Post 102: Rough displacement figure would be 14,500lbs with hull weight coming in at about 5,400lbs. Rocker as shown per drawings is about 19 inches which would equate to about 3/4" per foot.
     
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    your drawing shows a water line off about 44' , that comes out to about 1/2"
    per foot . I think your estimation of displacement is to light , as well as your estimation of hull weight .
     
  13. Pierre R
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    Yup I agree. I am guessing around 18,000 to 19,000 lbs and around 8,000 or so for the hull.

    With those figures the S/D ratio would be around 13.5 or so. A slow boat.
     
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    http://www.csun.edu/~vcgeo005/bogus.html
     

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    I guess there are two points of view here:
    1) It is the 4,400 year-old Ark. It was lifted over 2,000 m above sea-level by a large amount of water. It would need approximately 10^18 tonnes of it, assuming the flood was across the entire surface of the Earth. An alternative would be a local gravitational effect - shifting the Moon very close to Earth over this region might do it. That would avoid the problems associated with removing the large amount of water from the surface of Earth and away from its atmosphere.
    2) It is not.

    In general, a literal interpretation of the Bible requires belief in faith over any kind of scientific investigation or thinking, so I doubt this paper will change any one's opinion.

    However, even a sceptic may speculate that the long-standing belief that this is the Ark (or an Ark) may have given rise to the story of the Ark, and lead to the description of the size of the Ark in the Bible and the Quran.
     
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