Affordable seaworthy cruiser

Because it sure isn't seaworthy.

 

you want everything

you can by burned out light bulbs cheap or spend more for working bulbs

 

Now you are staring to get a little technical.

 

The design is "WESTON MARTYR" 46 x 7 , or around there.

Have fun.

 

Greetings,

Here is the AS55. Courtesy of Bruce Hallman at bolger yahoo groups.

 

The Weston Martyr is also an interesting boat.

 

Pierre,

Bob Wise at "boatbits blog" sailed 25,000 miles with his AS39 "loose moose" and crossed oceans with it, its cross section is square with deep rocker added. Before that was the 25' Martha Jane which also did 10,000 miles including trips across North Sea. He had mostly very good things to say about the design. Hope you get over your preconcieved notions, as many good examples are given about the capabilities of flat bottom boats.

 

As it is likely to sail heeled at 45 degrees won't it present a nice v shaped bow to the sea.

 

Bolger said these boats could be sailed offshore, but not that they would be fun or comfortable. I think he stated that they where not the best for ocean sailing.
He did design better sharpies for open ocean sailing. But sharpies are not the best shape . Why not multi chined with a steel box keel.

 

Frank,

Never said they where the best shape just that they are capable with a "fairly" good ride. That is why they have to keep beam small and length long which contributes to a better ride. Which sharpies were the better designs for offsure use, the AS55 seems to be his best for that purpose and the full keel will help much with comfort motion.

Really like the AS55 and the rig but its just way to undercanvased. Also wish the hull wasnt so high.

 

The height is good for buoyancy in a knockdown , and will make it self righting ,if you can keep the water out. it also makes it less stable upside down .Find some info on self righting in shallow draft boats. Read what bolger has to say about it .

I dont know what that motion would be like , you would have to figure that out . But think of it moving around at sea , up and down , rolling back and forth , all around . Think of how abruptly it will decelerate, it will not be soft,
or easy. I understand that the idea of roll damping can be interesting in the box hull , but maybe it could be over damped.

 

goodwilltoall, your idea is very close to the AS55. Do you have any more ideas
about it?

 

I am completely out of replies. Its very difficult to explain the sea and all of its surpises to folks who have never been to sea. I see that I have failed. My only consulation is that I will not be on it nor will I fund any of it.

I tried, it was entertaining while it lasted. Over and out. I am going to go get on my little boat with its Sabb 2H and CCP and go play in Lake Erie. The islands are calling.

 

All of this proves absolutely nothing and the sea herself preconceived my ideas. You can try to crack this nut any way you would like but the sea is still the sea. You still do not understand that there are three legs to seaworthiness.

The boat, the seaman and luck/weather.

At least you haven't said the reason you want to build it is to save money and get into an ocean crossing boat. That would be too laughable. You presently own a boat that is as capbable at crossing oceans as anything you have proposed.

There is still a big split on these forums between those who have been humbled by the sea and those who have yet to experience that. The differences in this thead could not be more apparent.

 

I have noticed that Mr. Tanton has a few box sailboat designs that he state are good for ocean sailing. Are their any opinions about them?
They seem very Bolgeresque to me , and not far from what Goodwilltoall wants to build. Perhaps there are more boats like this, and more information to be had.