AC 36 Foiling Monohulls

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  1. CT249
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    Thanks, Dolfi.

    I must say it's something of a concern that these days, we hear about a team's finances first, their manager second, their lawyers third, and nothing about their sailors.

    Bertone is not exactly a leading name in yacht design. It will be interesting to see how far this gets.
     
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    I think something has been lost in translation, does that mean that there will be some female crew members?
     
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    Yes of course, you are right, sorry for this inapropriate wording.
     
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    I found two translators that translated "female grafts" and one that translated "female couplings".....
     
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    Jack Griffin's AC newsletter says the Luna Rosa hired Persico to build the first foil cant arm and that it failed much earlier than anticipated.......
     
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    In complément, here is this Farevela article, polythecnicum schools of Milano and Torino will also be involved (Genova, and Imperia close, are the most direct access to the sea of these two big industrial towns) :
    https://farevela.net/2018/09/24/columbus-2021-bastera-un-logo-per-partecipare-allamericas-cup/
     
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    Two foiling tacks--very cool!
     
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    Some comment from Ben Ainsle (in French, copy and paste into Google Translate), something about less pressure for this round of the cup?
    BEN AINSLIE : "J'AI MOINS DE PRESSION SUR CETTE CAMPAGNE DE LA COUPE"
    (BEN AINSLIE: "I LESS PRESS ON THIS CAMPAIGN OF THE CUP")
    [Tip & Shaft #132] Ben Ainslie : "Moins de pression sur cette campagne" + Comment s'organise le Yacht Racing Forum https://us12.campaign-archive.com/?u=1e692787e2c4cc3370813fca1&id=1c8adeddde

    Where are you with the design and construction of your first AC75 and where do you place the cursor in terms of developing the second boat?
    The design and construction are well advanced. We can not say when we will put it in the water, but it's really good to build it, as the rules dictate, in Britain, where there is a lot of talent with boys like Jason Carrington and others. The really important thing will be how to properly adjust the package for the second boat and see how aggressive we can be in the initial design. Of course, we will not really know where we are until the others have launched their boats, but I am quite satisfied with where we arrived today, with opportunities to learn and refine this. first base.


    More video, the test boat is sporting a chopped forefoot, maybe to attenuate burying the bow a bit? Maybe a canard wing or foreplane would help more:
    Chris Brooks https://www.facebook.com/chris.brooks.7355/videos/10157161314604026/
     
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    Thanks, very interesting, I can propose you the full translation of the interview (the part about to AC75) :
    "Q : Let's talk about the Cup: you are so far the only team to have launched a training boat for the next edition, the Quant 28, called T5. What did he bring you?
    A : We sailed all summer to try to understand the challenges of this new type of boat. Like all the teams, we pushed the simulations very far, including on the water, to understand, both in terms of navigation and design, the key issues. This work was very important for us and this boat is a very good tool.

    Q : Where are you with the design and construction of your first AC75 and where do you place the cursor in terms of developing the second boat?
    A : The design and construction are well advanced. We can not say when we will put it in the water, but it's really good to build it, as the rules dictate, in Britain, where there is a lot of talent with boys like Jason Carrington and others. The really important thing will be how to properly adjust the package for the second boat and see how aggressive we can be in the initial design. Of course, we will not really know where we are until the others have launched their boats, but I am quite satisfied with where we are so far, with opportunities to learn more and to refine this first (preliminary) design basis.

    Q : Your challenge, which was called Land Rover BAR for the last edition, became Ineos Team UK, with moreover a (the) biggest budget [150 million euros, Ed.], what that changes on this new project?
    A : One of the key changes for me on this campaign is to have beside me Grant Simmer, who has a lot of experience, and Nick Holroyd. I feel that we are really well structured. I believe a lot in people's ability to take responsibility in their respective areas of expertise. In line with that, I learned myself a lot from Grant Dalton and Russell Coutts: make sure you have the best people around you and then let them do their job. I'm trying to set an example: Grant, as a general manager, is much more involved in the business side of things; myself, I watch to the whole operation to see where we are and I go on the water with the team. I also learned a lot from Jim [Ratcliiffe, boss of Ineos, Ed.] who is very impressive, it is a pleasure to work with him. With Grant, we meet every month to give him an accurate account of the status of the project and the files we are working on. He is not a sailor, but he is used to manage big technical projects and he knows very well how to make them work well. And if we have a problem, he is there to help us solve it.

    Q : You are considered by some of your competitors to be the biggest threat to the Emirates Team New Zealand defender for the next America's Cup. Do you feel more pressure on your shoulders?
    A : No, there is less pressure, I'm really happy. The last time, we had a real pressure due to lack of time : for example, we had a lot of partners, they were fantastic, but I had to spend a lot of time with them to get to know them and work with each of them. Here, it's really great to have Grant, with whom I have very good relationships, to take charge of this commercial aspect, which allows me to free up time to concentrate on what I can do better. Beside, there is always the pressure that we put on, the desire to do well, it does not change, as well as the hard work to make sure to have a real chance to win.

    Q : Still consider yourself as a favorite challengers?
    A : I think the level is going to be very high and very tight. Look at Luna Rossa: you have a team that has something like 25 years of experience on the America's Cup and lots of talented sailors, not to mention Terry Hutchinson, or Marcelino Botin who is one of the best specialists in competitive monohulls. And other teams should still arrive.

    Q : Are you satisfied with the number of entries for the next America's Cup?
    A : Obviously we would like to have more teams, but it's the America's Cup. The key point, and I hope that will be the case, is that this class of boat can work well, so that it can continue in the next ten years. If so, we can hope to lower costs and attract more teams.

    Q : Will not Larry Ellison and Russell Coutts compete with the SailGP for the America's Cup?
    A : I do not believe. I think it's great for sailing to have, year after year, circuits at the top, like the TP52 for example, in which people can engage and have fun. The America's Cup is a special event, the challenge is so high ... But I think that these circuits are complementary and that, on both sides, everyone will work hard for a cohabitation with each one working well on their own."
     
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