90 x 90 Race Multi

Thanks DGreenwood. Now if i can just fig. out how to do that... Maybe i need to call my son.

 

From the Alinghi website

“Let’s settle this on the water,” said Alinghi boss Ernesto Bertarelli
(New York, 18 March 2008) In response to New York Supreme Court Justice Herman Cahn’s order today designating Golden Gate Yacht Club (GGYC) as America’s Cup Challenger of Record replacing Club Náutico Español de Vela (CNEV), lead counsel for the defending yacht club, Société Nautique de Genève (SNG), Lucien Masmejan, issued the following statement:

“Following today’s court order, Larry Ellison has eliminated the competition and gained access to the America’s Cup Match, a feat BMW Oracle Racing has never been able to achieve on the water. While we are disappointed with the outcome of this court order and believe that the matter of GGYC’s certificate of challenge wasn’t properly addressed, we have decided not to appeal the decision and we look forward to getting the fight back on the water and meeting BMW Oracle Racing on the start line of a Deed of Gift Match in July 2009,” Masmejan said.

Should Alinghi win the Deed of Gift Match, the Defender is committed to getting the America’s Cup back on track for a world class multi-challenge event in 2011 in Valencia, Spain. “The challengers can be assured that the 34th America’s Cup will be run with the same vision and commitment for a premiere multi-challenge sailing event that they supported in Valencia in 2007,” Masmejan concluded.

Edit : For those who are not Americas Cup fanatics, Alinghi's appeal against the deed of gift challenge from BMW Oracle(GGYC) was dismissed, so it looks like we will see an Americas cup in 90'x90'x3' multis. This is going to be one interesting AC.

 

Multi AC

Hot Damn! This will be so much more than the Conner vs monoslug race-two maxi multies duking it out for the Cup-its a dream come true.

 

Alinghi Forfeits

If Ernesto and the boyz show up in July 2009 they will be lonely ...

The date of the match (as stated by the challenger) is July 2008

Alinghi have to get a boat on the water in 4 months!

 

You're so right-unless they negotiate something. The judge said that the schedule was not "interrupted",right?

 

It's a disaster for the Cup.

Match racing is about turning and dueling, not outright speed. Multis are no good for match racing, it becomes drag racing. You loose the skills and the subtleties that the event should have. The famed winged keel didn't make Australia II go faster, it helped the boat turn faster which gave her the upper hand. The Italians had the fastest boat the year that Australia won but they could not translate that into victory.

This is match racing, at its best the boats are identical then its a true test. The more open it becomes the more we loose the point and the skills... but isn't that the way with so many things these days?

Why turn what was a tactical discipline into a fleet race of two? The only reason you'd want that, is if you didn't appreciate what was going on in the first place. Honesty its like allowing chess players access to tactical computers... completely defeats the point.

That's from a multi fan!

 

Correct.

EB's latest 'best lawyers' got their butts handed to them. EB/Alinghi is spending $250,000+ per MONTH to not sail against GGYC and BMWO. Now they are out of time.

 

The America's Cup is NOT a match race. It has become one through mutual consent of the clubs racing. The idea of the Cup is to sail a 'match' (of 3 or more races) to find out what club/country has the best design, build, and sailing skills. The faster boat is supposed to win.

I'm a 'Match Racing' fan too, but the Cup is not the end event of the World Match Racing Tour (should it be?). The race series in July should be a great boost to racing multi's. It will also give the non-sailing Cup fans an exciting new boat to watch. They have been looking at the same boats since 1958 (sloops), something fast might be a good thing for the Cup.

 

What ever... that's what its always been seen as in my life time. This will make it a technology race and skills will fall out the back door and take a back seat just like F1. If they want a tech drag race, set one up and make it truly unlimited and don't stuff around with any silly limitations.

Let this event stand on what it became famous for, match racing. If this open race concept has merit it will stand on its own feet, no need to hijack a time honoured events format and name. Keep the damn lawyers out of it and race similar craft where all the important skills of team work, tactics and sailing will get you a win, not outright $$$$$ and tech.

JMO... but then again maybe thats why I am following the Cup less and less, its degrading into a court room farce.

 

sadly the Swiss have made a farce of the cup. Ted Turner was a pain in the a$$ but he was a showman. These guys make Connor look exciting. Sad as it is the Rolls Royce of yachting.

 

I agree. I liked good match racing in the 12's. I could even tolerate the less good match racing in the ACC boats. All it takes is for the clubs involved to agree to do it (like they have for the last 50 years). Now that we have spoilt brats that won't talk, at least we have a spectacular event in the offing.

At least (I hope) we will never see the new 'AC90' design sailing for the Cup. The AC90 will be a rotten 'match racer', no better than big multi's. If the choice is between a slow (fast for gutted leadmines) AC90's and 90x90 multi's what would you rather see?

The option to return to true 'match racing' is always there.

 

I'd rather watch true match racing... the 12's had some spice in that you could innovate inside the rule but it produced good evenly matched boats. IMO they should update the rule with a view to producing closely matched boats that can duel while leaving latitude for design and build innovation. Big enough to watch but not so big as to break the bank. Wild budgets will kill this race eventually, if they keep it with in reason it will have a much longer life and will build a tradition again that makes it worth winning. After all why do people want to win Wimbledon? Would it hold the same appeal if we remodeled the game every second year? The AC was a peak that countries tried to climb, now its a mobile bun fight that the most aggressive on and off the course will win. That's just not cricket ald chap

If we want to race multis why not resurrect the Little AC agian with say a 40' limit and bill it as a clash of multi hull tech prowess.

Anyway, thats my cranky ald 2c worth

 

Connor went to the court room a little to often for me but he was a damn good match racer. If we can keep the court room empty and act like "sporting gents & gals" on the course then you would get my attention back.

 

Multi Cup

You know, I watched every Cup since it was televised and there have been damn few exciting match races-there have been some but not many if you look at the whole record. And I will admit the exciting ones were just plain awesome. But this new technology will bring the Cup closer to its original premise of the highest technology in sailing. Match racing is an add on- lets see a technological contest with the best boats and best sailors-I think it will be incredibly exciting!

 

I think you miss the point.