Is my hull shape decent?

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by stonedpirate, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. stonedpirate
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    I'm glad i made this thread.

    That link to the blue plank boat alone was worth it :)

    Great boat, thought i was the only nut out there :p

    I have modified the design.

    Went out into the backyard with a measuring tape to get an idea of the actual size. I have a kayak bigger than it :p

    Anywho, i gott rid of the V hull and made it eggshell. I figured i might as well go stitch and glue chine if i want a v, cold molding gives me my egg.

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    I am using 3d studio max for modelling.

    I am going to put rails on the floor and attach a car seat inside with a quality harness to strap me in. At night, i can slide the seat forward and recline the chair to turn it into a bed. That way i can stay strapped down in a storm :)
     
  2. stonedpirate
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    oh, just saw the boat at the bottom of that link, its the size of a car :)

    love it
     
  3. stonedpirate
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    thats exactly what i want

    old school minature cruiser with quality parts, building and finish.

    I could never afford one at 40 foot :p

    10 foot keeps the dream alive
     
  4. tom28571
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    On the face of it, this is a model boat. A few years ago several people were planning a circumnavigation "race" called "Around in 10". That is, length was limited to 10'. None of the proposed designers looked anything like yours and some were done by respected designers. Eventually reality set in as I suspect it will for you. If we put convicted felons into the situation you propose, they could sue for unusual cruelty and win big money.

    Your vision of 10' and luxury yacht are mutually exclusive. This task faces more demanding compromises than just about any other dreamer encounters. Every item of gear or supplies and every millimeter and cubic inch will have to earn its way in. Its an interesting case study but not something any sane person would actually do.
     
  5. stonedpirate
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    Thanks Tom

    Yeah, i was actually one of the nuts on the around in ten forum

    I have seen pretty much every design ever made for that mission :)

    I didnt like any of them

    Thought the designs were all hypothetical

    Saw nothing practical

    If you look at the 12 foot boat that actually set the record, its just a scaled down yacht crossed with an aluminium fishing dinghy.

    Nothing fancy, nothing high tech, nothing an award winning designer would build.

    Just a basic hull and simple rigging.

    What made it possible was sturdy bullet proof contruction that can withstand cyclones, and a tough ozzy outdoors man with nothing to lose.

    I think any strong hull with basic sailing characteristics could do it.

    It might not be the best, might not be the fastest, might not be an award winner, but if you have a nut job sailor willing to put themselves through 5 years of torture, its doable :p
     
  6. gonzo
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    I would suggest you draw yourself inside the hull. That will bring forth the space limitations.
     
  7. stonedpirate
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    Thanks Gonzo

    Yeah, i actually made a 6 foot cylinder in max to get an idea of sitting and laying positions.

    My plan is to keep all my stores and stuff low down underneath the florr, and i will inhabit the space thats left over.

    Basically a car seat at the back.

    Its just a floating chair that you strap yourself into :p

    Will spend all good weather moments on deck harnessed to a mermaid line.

    Indoors for weather protection and sleeping only.
     
  8. stonedpirate
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    By luxury i just meant the best building materials, best paint, best rigging, best electrics, etc etc. The stuff people skimp on to get a bigger boat.

    Obviously wont be a luxurious lifestyle but the boat will be a work of art :)
     
  9. gonzo
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    Are you seeking to break a record and gain fame?
     
  10. stonedpirate
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    Well, when i first read serges book, i was inspired to attempt to break the record.

    After all the planning, training, designing etc etc, had second thoughts about commiting to the project upon learning the reality of the situation and gave up.

    I started to miss all the plotting and scheming and creativity of it. I thoroughly enjoyed the learning experience and learned a lot about boats in the process so I decided to carry on with it even if i dont set sail for another country.

    I would be satisfied with a boat that 'could' do it if you had the balls.

    Its my hobby, and will use the boat for cruising my local area in western austrlia. Trips north to an island, maybe south a few times. Could use it for fishing etc etc.

    its like kayaking except you can carry more stuff, go for longer etc.

    With the money i am about to spend on it, i could buy a nice, practical fishing boat.

    But i would miss out on all the fun of boat design :)

    Its a weird hobby, but i'm weird so **** it.
     
  11. daiquiri
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    I honestly believe that you will have some serious spinal disc problems after the journey is over. :p
     
  12. stonedpirate
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    I thought about that

    Yoga on deck every morning, swimming when weather allows, exercise from manual water maker.

    I'll make sure the sleeping position is natural and comfortable and my posture when sitting is correct.

    Its doable
     
  13. stonedpirate
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    It would be a zen monk lifestyle
     
  14. yipster
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    Gonzo see your point but give the kid some slack, he just dicovered "how to work with 3d"
    dreams of boats and so far havent really said or shown anything "un"decent yet :eek:
    keep learning and drawing pirat, wait a little with round alone and when building try a 3 meter stich and glue first
    try freeship+ also, read the manual and export a *.iges file to import in 3dmax for a bit more seaworthy boat
    here a 3d figer you can merge in 3dmax for fit, check hyrarchic kinematics later for arm and leg motions
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  15. frank smith
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    I cant see as if a zen monk would have any use of this boat, better a lotus leaf .

    But I like the idea of it . Maybe a small "keel cat" type boat would work. A dagger board could be worked in with out taking up valuable space .

    What pay load are you thinking about?

    if the restriction is 10 feet , I would not give up WL length to the spoon bow .
    Perhaps a box keel to broaden the load curve and keep the Cp lower .
    Or a scow like the New Mini 650 .

    Peace ,
    F
     
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