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Friday, January 30, 2009
NASA Rigs Data, Reports False Global Warming

James Hansen is the NASA climatologist who started the global warming hysteria in 1988 when he told a Senate committee he was 99 percent sure global warming was already underway. The news media seized upon his unsupported testimony and parlayed it into an impending planetary crisis. A new industry was born. Billions of dollars were spent, and tens of thousands of jobs were created, giving rise to growing numbers of people with vested interests in promoting the specter of global warming. James Hansen gave them ammunition. For years, as head of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), he has “repeatedly been caught providing erroneous temperature reports that always err on the side of claiming more warming than has occurred,” says James Taylor in the February 2009 issue of Environment & Climate News.

In 2007 it was revealed that GISS had been artificially inflating U.S. temperatures by 0.15 degrees Celsius since the year 2000. NASA had claimed that six of the ten hottest years in U.S. history had occurred since 1995. When the erroneous data was corrected, 1998 (an unusually warm year due to El Nino—not carbon dioxide) was no longer the warmest year of the past century in the U.S. It fell to second place, with 1934 now being the warmest. And third place now belonged to 1921, not 2006. The formerly high-ranking years 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004 fell well down the leader board—behind even 1900! Four of the top ten are now from the 1930s : 1934, 1931, 1938, 1939. Since more than 80 percent of the century's increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide occurred after 1940, the warmer temperatures of earlier years can't be explained by higher carbon dioxide levels.

In April 2008 Canadian statistician Steve McIntyre (http://www.climateaudit.org/) documented that NASA has been “rewriting history time and time again.” Still, NASA continued the process. It falsely reported that October 2008 was the warmest October on record. Statistical scientists jumped on this claim, leading even NASA to admit it was wrong. The month was actually quite normal.

Now meteorologist Anthony Watts has caught GISS and Hansen doctoring data records from Santa Rosa, California, and potentially other temperature stations. The charts below show how Hansen and his underlings turned a long-term decline into a long-term temperature increase.[SEE POST BELOW]

The top chart [SEE POST BELOW] shows actual readings reported by the U.S. Historical Climatology Network (USHCN). GISS arrives at its numbers by taking the USHCN data and applying secret adjustments. USHCN reports a temperature decline of nearly one-half degree Celsius during the twentieth century, while GISS reports an increase of one-half a degree. Hansen has refused to explain how and why he makes these adjustments.

Hansen's secrecy raises an ethical and perhaps legal question of whether the head of an agency federally funded by U.S. taxpayers can refuse to disclose how those funds are spent. It is reminiscent of a case a few years ago involving Michael Mann and his “hockey stick” graph purportedly illustrating global warming in recent decades. It showed centuries of temperature records as a basically horizontal line (the handle of the hockey stick), to which was added a sharply rising line (resembling the blade of the hockey stick) to denote global warming in recent decades. For a long time Mann refused to disclose his methodology. Finally, faced with pressure from a Congressional committee, he relented and revealed it. His study was shown to be based on an invalid statistical procedure. One must wonder if that was the reason he refused to disclose it sooner—and if Hansen has maintained his secrecy for the same reason. Robert Ferguson, president of the Science and Public Policy Institute, has stated: “Hansen's track record for presenting false data is undeniable, and yet neither the press nor the government holds him accountable for his self-serving errors and lack of objectivity.”

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From Their Own Mouths: Global Warming is a Fraud

"We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public's imagination... So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts... Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest." - Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

"Unless we announce disasters no one will listen." - Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC

"It doesn't matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true." - Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace

"We've got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy." - Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony... climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world." - Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

"The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe." - emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

"We require a central organizing principle - one agreed to voluntarily. Minor shifts in policy, moderate improvement in laws and regulations, rhetoric offered in lieu of genuine change - these are all forms of appeasement, designed to satisfy the public’s desire to believe that sacrifice, struggle and a wrenching transformation of society will not be necessary." - Al Gore, Earth in the Balance

"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsiblity to bring that about?" - Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

"A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation." - Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies

"The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are." - Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

"Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control." - Professor Maurice King

"Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable." - Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit

"Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it." - Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

"The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet." - Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

"Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun." - Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

"The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil." – Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview

"My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world." -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." - Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

"... the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion." - Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

"I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." - John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

"The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing." - Christopher Manes, Earth First!

"Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing." - David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club
 
I'm sorry, but those quotes don't prove global warming is a fraud; they just prove people can say some amazingly stupid things. As a matter of fact, most of them don't even address the subject of climate change..
 
Quotes of this nature are not intended to prove anything scientific.
They supply information about their authros and the state of their mind and intentions.
This are the people who decide or consultant of those who decide how much you and me are going to pay for electricity and fuel, and heating and water etc.
In Australia they are already softening people up to pay 60% more in the next few years for electricty.
This is after a completely uncalled for 20% increase.

And no one is saying a word.

Why?

Because it is all for the good of the planet and to make it cooler.

Cool! :rolleyes:
 
Quotes of this nature are not intended to prove anything scientific.
They supply information about their authros and the state of their mind and intentions.
This are the people who decide or consultant of those who decide how much you and me are going to pay for electricity and fuel, and heating and water etc.
In Australia they are already softening people up to pay 60% more in the next few years for electricty.
This is after a completely uncalled for 20% increase.

And no one is saying a word.

Why?

Because it is all for the good of the planet and to make it cooler.

Cool! :rolleyes:


Let's not get plain silly with the scare tactics.:rolleyes:

You're making a pretty tenous connection, when you claim those people are going to decide how much I pay for utilities. I don't see a single member of the California Public Utilities Commission on the list. And I'm willing to bet none of them are consultants to it, either.
 
I can't think of a good reason for a scientist to use fraudulent tactics to advance a hypothesis unless the hypothesis was also a fraud. In the scientific method the truth will stand up to a hurricane, it might get wet, but it will still be the truth!
 
A theory is a hypothesis that has withstood rigorous testing and thus validated. Since AGW cannot withstand such testing, it has never risen to the stature of a theory, which is why I steadfastly refer to it as a hypothesis or even a narrative (fairy tale ).

The AGW alarmists like to point out that the entire hypothesis cannot be practically tested (which is true) so that we must act as if it were true just in case it is.

But the individual parts of the narrative can be tested, if not the whole thing. And each and every sub-component of the AGW hypothesis FAILS upon rigorous testing. We can discuss these individual sub-components and their various failures, if you like.

I submit that there can be no hypothesis whose sub-components having been falsified, can still be found true. That's just impossible.

Jimbo

This is like politics or religion. One beieves what one wants and there's no way yu can convince them no matter how good your arguments.

Just lke marco1, an papa for that matter, you ar conveniently refusing the possibility that you may be wrong in you belief. Conveniently because you are using ******** fo some financially interested and involved "scientists" who are keen to see the warming continue well into the future for ther own benefit to "prove" your point.

Let us go back a few steps. Back to the rots. It all started whe you ere a kid or, more likely, were not even born. In the fifities and sixties, the scientists measured the fall of the temperature on a global level.

Are you with me so far?

And, as anglosaxons usually do, it all became gloom and doom and all that ********.

We were sailing into anothr ice age.

And it was because of th coal burning electricity plants. The theory was that the humans emit so many particles into the air that these particles started reducing the level of sun's heat reacing the surface of the earth.

CO2 was detected and was thought to contribute to that process, but it was not well understood back than just how the CO2 could contribute so it was left alone for a while. Then a paradox happened. Instead of another ice age, suddenly the weather had changed and it became hotter.

One researcher whose name is escaping me now, started measuring the CO2 in the air and by seventise, his graphs had clearly showed that the CO2 was increasing, and it was increasing rapidly.

Along the way, and independently of this climate farce, it was discovered and proved in labs that CO2 absorbs the heat. Because of that quality of the gas, it became known as the greenhouse gas.

It all becomes (what a surprise from inept and naive anglosaxon "scientists") a big blunder and to cover-up the shameful episode, then usa president asks JASON to come in and offer independent advice.

Ok, let us check again: are you still with me?

Ok, I didn;t think either, but let us go on. JASON is/was usanian govt Defence matters advisory group. They had nothing to do with the climate crap. They were, however, scientists and so the govt thought let us ask these people because they should be the brightest around and being scientists, they may provide independent advice.

JASON grudgingly took upon the task because they were not into the civilian stuff and civilian scientific community barked lout at them for meddling where they do not belong.

Here's the funny thing that makes all the negativists here and everywhere look stupid (wasn't difficult, and I am judging merely from the posts seen): JASON completed their study in 1979 and confirmed the general line taken by the pro-sayers: the earth was undergoing the period of warming and the number of factors, all introduced into the environment by humans, were contributing. According to JASON, if continued with the same rythm, CO2 would have doubled by 2100, and the temperature globally would grow by 2-3 degrees Celsius. On poles as high as 12 degrees.

These number are slightly revised downwards, but still considered quite on the mark by todays pro-warming scientists.

Another reason why negativists are wrong. In 1980 forrest gumps spiritual father, ronald mcregan became another puppet, sorry president, apparently. He soon got involved into the warming debate because his political ally margaret tatcher stepped in heavilly. So, to appear that he is responsible too, he decided to look into it.

Given his IQ, he decided to find someone smarter to put the words to what he believed was the truth. He found perfect candidate in one of the scientists in the JASON itself. And the guy was a dissident who did not believe even to his colleagues. Some Nuermeberg, or something like that.

So, Nuermeberg gets the job and then prepares the report filled with his personal political and scientific opinions, which it must be said, closely matched those of ronald mcreagan.

It is true to some extent that there's some global warming but it is slow and people will have more than enough time to adapt to the changes. No reason to worry, no reason to panic, no reason to do anything.

Once the "theory" entered into the political arena, it became the mantra to negativists and a bone of contention between the pro and contra camps.

Hansen simply voiced the reason of someone capable of understanding the info presented. Unlike today monkeys, he was not paid to defend either point of view. It was his professional opinion for the conditions at the time.

Today's "scientists" working for governmental organisations with nothing else but a political agenda, of course that are interested in defending their jobs first and foremost. After all, we live in capitalism. Everyone for himself and screw the truth.

Just as the flu of that pig came into being and never turned into an epidemy that the "scientists" were schizofrenically warning about.

Now, there have been some people who contradicted me by claiming that the amounts of the CO2 humans produce every year, is too small to make a difference. These individuals are wrong because they know nothing about the thermodynamics.

CO2 is excellent heat absorber and accumulator. It doesn't take much of it to store large amounts of heat. In combination with other conditions, such as deforestation which helped CO2 increase by removing forests which absorb excess CO2 from the atmosphere, animal stock we breed for food and/or farmwork, cars, factories, etc.

One more part of the theory of those pro-bullshitters is wrong. They claim that the heat goes through the atmosphere, hits the surface, reflects into the atmosphere again and then bounces off the CO2 and returns to the ground instead of dissipating into the space.

CO2 does not "reflect" the heat downwards. It absorbs it and it keeps it into the atmosphere's upper levels. That slows dowh the dissipation of the heat trailing behind and eventually the heat starts to accumulate and grow.

And last silly contra argument: the amount of CO2 produced by humans is minute and it makes no difference.

Let us consider just the last 100 years. If we disturb the temperature upwards only 0.01% every ear, that is 1 degree /Celsius in 100 years. As there were about 2.5 billion people in 1900, and ther are about 6.5 today, it is fair to assume that the amount of CO2 e produce is on the upwards trajectory. And the temperature will follow.

2-3 degrees are capable of screwing up our environment big time.

That scientist who measured the CO2 in the air in 1960's recorded doubling up CO2 amount in the air just during his decade or so of measuring it. And the amount we produce anually kept growing steadilly since.

To say that we are not influencing our environment in some way at least, is plainly reiculous.

Stupid, really. But that is not why these scientists today, losing their emails to hackers, and receiving millions in payments for some work no one really does - hence "missing' emails - are wrong.

What can one expect from capitalist- educated and oriented, everyone for himself sort of greedy losers.
 
Ive never been to Florida --Is it nice?

Depends on what you call nice, I suppose. It was 85F here yesterday. Nice for the beach, crappy if you're doing a lot of buffing on a big job:(

Jimbo
 
Many components of the theory of evolution are testable, and many have passed the test. Some have failed, forcing scientists to seek alternative explanations for these particular sub-components of the theory. The main sub-component, natural selection, is wholly testable, and passes easily.

There is not one component of the AGW narrative that passes the test. That CO2 is a greenhouse gas is uncontested. It is an uncontested fact that CO2 is capable of causing about .6c for a doubling from 280ppm to 560ppm. What is contested is that CO2 drives water vapor concentration higher, causing dangerous warming. Tested and failed.

Jimbo

then you agree on what a scientific theory is

lets take it one step further

is there ANY possibility that co2 causes temp rise?

is there ANY possibility that human activity is the cause of the extra co2?
 
then you agree on what a scientific theory is

lets take it one step further

is there ANY possibility that co2 causes temp rise?

is there ANY possibility that human activity is the cause of the extra co2?

Yes, these assertions are plausible, but they must be tested to verify that they are true and correct before we begin to behave as if they were true and correct.

Start with CO2 as a greenhouse agent.


Jimbo
 
then you agree on what a scientific theory is

lets take it one step further

is there ANY possibility that co2 causes temp rise?

is there ANY possibility that human activity is the cause of the extra co2?

Of course not. Haven't you been reading Jimbo's posts? He's single-handedly destroyed the entire discipline, and proven the vast majority of climatologists to be frauds, liars, and/or incompetents..:D
 
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