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Old 11-28-2011, 07:58 AM
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What is this???

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I came across this picture on the internet.

What is the exact purpose of this black floor? What is this floor called?

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Old 11-28-2011, 12:08 PM
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Its a full scale drawing of the plumbing layout to guide the installers, what fits where.
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Old 11-29-2011, 03:47 AM
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Hm.. That seems useful. Where can one order something like this?
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:00 AM
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Hm.. That seems useful. Where can one order something like this?
aaaah you could make your own !! you could use your imagination ??
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:33 AM
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Once you have the blueprints, you need a printer of sufficient width. Another option is to use a smaller printer in banner mode and then join the strips.
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Old 11-29-2011, 08:25 AM
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I think it is drawing of a pump on ship
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:22 PM
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That looks to be a laser cut piece(s) of likely Masonite (or other cheap material), with the hardware mapped out for installation. As the elements are installed, the cutout pieces are removed and this can eliminate errors in reading the plans or confusion with less then skilled workers. There's no guess work, or worse, a "judgement call" made by an installer, that potentially compromises other areas or aspects of the build.
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:36 PM
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That looks to be a laser cut piece(s) of likely Masonite (or other cheap material), with the hardware mapped out for installation. As the elements are installed, the cutout pieces are removed and this can eliminate errors in reading the plans or confusion with less then skilled workers. There's no guess work, or worse, a "judgement call" made by an installer, that potentially compromises other areas or aspects of the build.
Having been a tract superintendent for a while (among other things), I could give you a few horror stories about 'judgment calls,' especially those involving plumbers.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:47 AM
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That's precisely why the laser cut diagram is in place Troy. Anyone in the industry, land based or marine can tell you horror stories of pipe fitters cutting huge holes in structural elements to get their stuff installed, plumbers cutting HAVC duct work to run pipes, electricians using gas pipes as a ground, the usual stuff. The diagram makes the 2D drawing a real 3D thing, in place, on the job site. You don't have to have workers that can read plans or even ones that can make reasonable decisions, which means less cost in the labor and a more precisely followed set of plans.
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Old 11-30-2011, 12:54 AM
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Dunno if its still done but years back there was specialist draftsmen/modelmakers that would create scaled segments of chemical plants etc to "prove" the runs & create a tangible model for the engineers & fitters to follow.
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Yep, it's still done, but now we can "walk through" the model on the screen. You can simulate moving a replacement piece of equipment through the structure, to see if it'll clear in route, etc.
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Old 11-30-2011, 04:43 AM
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In any case this seems like a good idea. I had many conflicts on construction site because printed plans were lost, misinterpreted or ignored.

I was wondering weather there are companies that make floors like this... I could draw something like this, but I do not want to, because it is going to be time consuming and at the end expensive. Company that makes a living out of this surely can offer this service at a competitive price.
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Old 11-30-2011, 02:51 PM
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Fewfish, what's more expensive, skilled labor costs to install things properly and to plan or a cardboard cutout, with all the equipment visually identified and placed about where it needs to be, so that low skilled labor can install it to the plan?
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I saw some tract housing being put in where all the houses were the same design, but some of them were a mirror image. The developer was too cheap to make mirror image copies of the plans, instead the plumbers had to hold the regular plans up to a light and look at the back side if they wanted to see what the house looked like! Lots of pipes installed under slabs in the wrong locations on that job.

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Old 12-01-2011, 12:41 AM
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Its a full scale drawing of the plumbing layout to guide the installers, what fits where.
I think you are right!
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