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Old 01-07-2010, 04:21 PM
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I do´nt know of any plywood comparing table.

In case you need something taylored to your needs, you should contact "Sommerfeld & Thiele" in Germany.
http://www.sommerfeld-thiele.de/index.php?seid=44

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Old 01-07-2010, 04:52 PM
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Tom thanks so much on that, it is what I was looking for. Without trying to beat a dead horse, if I may. Is there any other plywood that is of the same high quality and has similar light weight as Okume? I have not been able to find a page that compares plywood.

Wood explorer is excellent, but I found nothing on plywood.
Marine grade Lauan was once available but I have not seen it in years. Lauan is somewhat more durable than Occoume and other characteristics are similar or better than Occoume. There was a stir of something called Kerrung a couple years ago. The weight alone was enough to keep me away as it was at least 40% heavier than Occoume. Types and sources of marine plywood has always been a moving target. I know of no source for definitive information on all types of plywood.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:26 PM
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These manufacturer data sheets might help.
I was surprised by the relatively small difference in values.

http://www.nordcompensati.com/en/com...ti-mogano.html

http://www.nordcompensati.com/en/com...ti-okoume.html

http://www.nordcompensati.com/en/compensati-okoume.html

For shear strength you could (very roughly) take half of the value found for the same material in solid form, parallel to the grain.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:31 PM
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For Ocoume, from a French manufacturer:
Propriétés mécaniques
Charge de rupture traction 30 MPA
Charge de rupture flexion 40 MPA
Module d'élasticité 4000 MPA
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Old 01-09-2010, 03:46 PM
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Cookie Munster, Thanks, I am also trying to get "numbers on the difference in weights between Ply and foam/glass. I prefer to work in Ply, but I want to be realistic.

Thanks you for the links. It looks like this one link:

http://www.nordcompensati.com/en/compensati.html

Will take me to many Plywoods I can compare. I recently saw one of the

first design sheets to quote a boat in Plywood and foam/glass

http://www.teamscarab.com.au/scarab22/design.html

As you can see the weight difference is not small. +28% (if my math is right)

I am not sure there is even a "rule" like, well in ply it is 25% heavier, but

price is equal and less labor. Like I have said, many variables.

for a 6.7 tr. Trimaran. Foam= 420 KG. and Plywood = 540 KG. 120 KG.

difference. Or 22% I am not sure. I understand there are a lot of variables.

How well a guy will use the materials for maximum strength to weight issues.
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Old 01-10-2010, 11:47 AM
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Although using multiple materials does have advantages, it also requires a lot more craftsmanship. don't want to discourage you, but it's something to keep in mind....
Good luck
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:04 PM
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Here are some distributors that stock marine ply. The BS1088 Okoume, BS1088 Hydrotek and BS6566 Aquatek:

ATLANTIC PLYWOOD, MA, ME 800-360-3923
CONNECTICUT PLYWOOD, CT 860-953-0060
ROBERTS PLYWOOD, NY 631-586-7700
WOODFORD PLYWOOD, GA 229-883-4900
McEWEN LUMBER, NC 919-772-7550
SEAFARER MARINE, FL 954-763-4263
RIVERSIDE LUMBER, LA 504-242-6626
RARE EARTH HARDWOODS, MI 800-968-0074
HOUSTON HARDWOODS, TX 713-686-6176
FOREST PLYWOOD, CA - 714-523-1721
ALMAQUIST LUMBER, CA 707-668-5652
McBEATH HARDWOOD, UT 801-484-7616
CROSSCUT HARDWOOD, OR 503-224-9663
PLYWOOD TACOMA, WA 253-383-5571
WEST WIND HARDWOOD, BC 800-667-2275
LL JOHNSON LUMBER (MI) - 800-292-5937
SEAFARER MARINE (FL) - 954-763-4263
HOMESTEAD HARDWOODS (OH) 419-684-9582
E-BOAT (FL) - 772-770-1225
RUSSELL PLYWOOD - 610-374-3206
PLYWOOD & DOOR (IL) - 708-354-2155
STRAIGHT LUMBER (CO) - 303-366-3561
ML CONDON LUMBER (NY) - 914-946-4111
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bruynzeel ply from holland
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Hey,

I´m missing the EU suppliers!
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There used to be a lightweight ply with balsa core. Is there any manufacturer still making it?
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There used to be a lightweight ply with balsa core. Is there any manufacturer still making it?
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LL Johnson / Johnson's Workbench

I noticed that LL Johnson was listed a a source for marine ply. Just a note to advise of my experience with these guys. Most of the specialty lumber operations are very professional so the failure of these guys was a surprise.

In short, I purchased about 30 sheets of Sapele and 2 sheets of teak for finish work on my boat. The 1/4 Sapele was fine but the 1/8 was trash. The 23 sheets of 1/8th consisted of seconds with wild color variations and up to 13 lines of knots running across the ribbon sapele. Four sheets were actually 3/32 with paper thin veneer and significant edge and corner damage.

The teak sheets were truly bizarre. From normal teak color to black and appeared to be turned off tiny stock. Throw away quality.

The sad part of this is that they trashed a five year project with the garbage they shipped to me. And since it shipped to the USVI I have no recourse but to try to make it work. I paid $500 in shipping to have them clean out their trash.

Sorry-- My experience is that these are untrustworthy and generally bad people.

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Old 11-12-2010, 02:11 AM
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That's lovely Keith, though this is a nearly year old thread.
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Old 11-12-2010, 01:40 PM
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Thank you Paul!
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