Z65 Chris Ostlind plans..

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  1. Frankh78
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    I am looking for a suitable design to build a trimaran of about 20'.
    I ordered the scarab 650 plans but then I came across the Z65 design and I like the idea of using Nacra gear. Just build one hull iso three
    Are there already plans for sale of the Z65?
     
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    Probably best to contact Chris directly by email ChrisatWedgesail.com
     
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    If you wait a bit you could get a Sid 650 foiler; that is, when I finish the build and sail the prototype and tune it up and make plans available. Goes without saying, speed, comfort, trailerable with swinging main beam - did I say speed?
     

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    Are you building this or are you trying to sell your mystere cat? ;)
    I like that project, and YES there is a 'but', I would like to have the possibility to have an overnight stay, so I need a cabin. Also to race the boat offshore with a bit more protection to weather and water..
     
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    Hi Frank, I will send you a PM soon.

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    You seemed to like the Clissold designs in other threads, I'm surprised that you haven't considered his TC601 design, fits a lot of your brief and uses donor boats such as the F18's which are widely available. Don't be put off by its more high tech style build, you will end up with a better and more saleable boat when you want to move onto other lifestyles
     
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    Thanks Wayne! I didn't know this design exists, and I like it!
    It looks like a bit more daysailing than an 'overnighter' however.
    I will take it in consideration, so thanks for pointing it out to me!
     
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    Sorry but at 20ft you are not going to get an over nighter for 2 in a cabin form. The TC601 is I think about 1.2 metres at the widest part of the bunk, it's big enough for 1 1/2 people which is a bit inconvenient for the second person and the underwater sections have had to be designed wide and fat to even get that width. It does have a great big cockpit area though which is bigger wider and long enough to say that would make a great camping area under a boom tent.

    What the TC601 had always been designed to do was to give enough space in the cabin to give shelter if needed, a place where the good ladies and rug-rats could do what they needed to do in privacy, give light weight hull forms which allow easy ground handling and cost about 1/4 of its nearest rival the Pulse in components. That leaves a lot of spare cash for hotel and motel rooms when you get to where you are going to freshen up and have a nice meal.

    We just need to think out of the box a little and consider how these 20 footers are going to be used before limiting ourselves to conventional designs, that's why in my opinion few 20 footers have been sucessful as designs to date.
     
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    One small detail. The Ostlind designs are vapour ware, just pictures. No plans. Sad but true.
     
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    Maybe I need to scale up my plans a little bit and use de 6.5m (21') the scarab as a minimum for plan and design selection.
     
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    Some of Chris Ostlind's designs have been built like the El Gato catamaran, so you point is? Better to email Chris directly if anyone is interested in the status of any of his designs. I'd note too that designers like Kurt Hughes and Tony Grainger also put up concept renders which have not necessarily all been carried through to plan sets to gauge interest.
     

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    Are you sure that 21 ft is going to achieve what you want out of a boat, the Scarab 21 ft would almost certainly have less cabin space than the TC601, would the Farrier 22 be big enough ? all these sub 24ft boats are glorified day sailors with teeny wheeny minimalist Cabins.

    My first question to you should have been, have you been and looked in real life at a small Tri or Cat, my guess is that you will be surprised how small these boats are. The very next question would be have you considered just how much even 2ft in length is going to affect the price ? The next question has to be then just what do I need this boat to do ? If it includes sleep overs then I would doubt 22 ft is going to give the comfort one needs.

    If we go up to 24ft which is about the minimum I would consider as being big enough for a couple to sleep over in, then I would guess again that you may have to reconsider your budget.
     
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