Yanmar - How long should it take for oil pressure to come up from a cold start?

Discussion in 'Diesel Engines' started by Frosty, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. Fanie
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    Fanie Fanie

    Most of the auto sump pumps have a shaft you drive them on. Chevy makes such a thing... Phone a spares shop and ask. I'm sure Thailand must have spares shops too ?

    What brains ????
     
  2. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    It is not for a motor-bike, that is all.... (Probably explains why the boat hardly ever moves:D:D:D:D)
     
  3. powerabout
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    The pump is going to need a but of grunt and will need to be a gear pump.
    If you have ever put a hand drilll on the shaft of a engine oil pump and tried to pump oil you will see.
    I think the cold oil will be the problem being so viscious.
    I think Johnson pumps makes a fibre grear gear pump for fuel transfer?

    A fuel pump from a Detroit would be about the right pump....
    Just need the motor and drive

    Some of the larger freshwater pumps kits are also gear pumps.


    Perhaps google fuel polishing as many are gear pumps
    http://www.depcopump.com/catalog110/041.pdf

    I was going to suggest a trim pump from outboard or sterndrive ( once you adjust the pressure out) but not sure how they will work without a flooded inlet as they operate in their own reservoir.
    Late Merc high vol low pressure would have about the right flow and an all in one package.
    They were designed to use 10w engine oil.

    Best of luck.
     
  4. scotch&water
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    Pumping Oil

    Hi Frosty My thinking is that the lift pump on out drive lift cyl. would work, with a check valve and pressure sender for an electric guage would be a good ad on, for the sump a section of pipe with a plate top and botom some fab. work to connect the pump, it could get oil feed fom the oil cooler? Fritz.
     
  5. Frosty

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    I have investigated the trim and tilt pump off an old outboard. A new one is cough --splutter--expensive,--- and I need 2.

    I could fly to America and buy a Tilton cheaper.

    I am proud of my engine installations in my white engine rooms , I don't want a cocked up pump and motor bolted to them. I want a nice neat installation. These Yanmars are complicated enough with alarms and bells,I really don't want to make it more so.

    Spares shops are every 200yds --literally-- but if Toyota Isuzu or Mitsubishi dont use them , then they wont have them.

    I will change tactics and investigate the 4 wheel drive race shops.
     
  6. pistnbroke
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    pistnbroke I try

    I beleive in KISS so as the main problem is that he oil filter is UP rther then DOWN the the solution is the turn the filter ...adaptor or remote ...??? Of course if we had photo of these operating theatre style engine rooms we might be able to help a bit more ...ha ha if you need anything from au or uk I can get it posted to you .......



    Stay cool but not too Frosty !!!
     
  7. Frosty

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    You asked the same question or made the same remark some time back. I wrote a lengthy reply as to why this is not possible.
     
  8. WestVanHan
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  9. Frosty

    Frosty Previous Member

    Again ---perfect --just what I want.

    Postage will be 200 dollar ,--if they can or will take a mastercard.

    And no tracking number or insurance. It just wont get here.

    Been here so many times
     
  10. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Frosty, F... ameri.... have you tried to get it from ozzi? we have registered and insured small package delivery with signature required through Australia Post or even some couriers? - find the place and product (preferably Brisbane)... I will look around... and see what I can do...

    I will need size LxWxH and if it meeds "bubblewrap protection" and weight and value for insurance - aren't those septic businesses useless....?
     
  11. mark775

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    Frosty, I have the same problem getting stuff past customs into Mexico. One method is to get someone you trust to bring it. Even a random unknown traveler would be more reliable than customs with nobody watching. Bags are often light going over so that they can be filled for the trip back... Maybe even someone on this forum is traveling there soon.
     
  12. mark775

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    Mas, Fine. Why do always have to be a dick?
     
  13. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    For F's sake the man has explained the difficulties with trying to do business with USA several times... Over-priced will not accept mastercard, and do not deliver - so who is the dick? - - I usually call a spade a spade, and an idiot gets the response deserved, for an inane and stupid question... - - - - I stayed out of the play because it is not my field, and no forthcoming, helpful, or, useful suggestions to supply? - - - **** I am no expert but given the stuff from Frosty, I reckon any dumbarse could deliver so all the dumbarses over there could not - so it seems? - - At least I will have a go...
     
  14. WestVanHan
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    OK Frosty this is it....

    I have had import businesses and still import "samples" for fun.
    Co.s usually have minimum orders,tell them u want to buy a few for testing, when you just want them 4 spares.


    Made in Thailand,not heat rated (need check valves) and you can run the pressure down to 1 bar.

    http://www.alibaba.com/product/th10...ar_Oil_Pump_DC_Fuel_Transfer_Pump_TG_BS5.html



    TOPSFLO PUMP TECHNOLOGY CO LTD
    Street Address: Nong Phalai Banglamung
    City: Chonburi
    Province/State: Thailand
    Country/Region: Thailand
    Zip: 20150
    Telephone: 66-3-62788985
    Fax: 66-3-62736895
     
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  15. masalai
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    masalai masalai

    Good on the Canadians, Thanks Sir... and later maybe? as... " You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to WestVanHan again. " :D:D:D
     

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