yacht sunk in med

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  1. peter radclyffe
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    what fishing boatyards are in vigo Carlos
     
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    Carlos ,thanks i am trying to find the shipyard that the schooner America was in 40 ? years ago, where a man died when the boat lifting failed
     
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    and do you know the shipyard that built the new germania
     
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    I've read former captain review . 11 pages here .
     
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    Might be REAL interesting. :)
    Mike Lynch (businessman) - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lynch_(businessman)

    But when a 'big boy' company like H-P shells out 9 BILLION for another computer company, don't the seller have them sign a "we did our DUE DILIGENCE and agree to 'no refunds' and if the company we are buying turns out to be not worth what WE have determined, its our fault for being stupid and not checking"????

    Shouldn't the management of H-P be sued by shareholders instead???

    But as far as boating, I still don't know why its not Standard Equip for a keel boat with enough lead to send it on a one way trip to Davy Jones Locker to have a few emergency provisions such as enough buoyant compartments that normally stay closed and some automatic inflating airbags and maybe ability to release at least some of the keel lead.
     
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    One of the largest floating platforms in the world, over 80 meters long, will be used for the recovery operations, which will arrive from the Netherlands. It is called "Hebo Lift 10" and has already left the port of Rotterdam with destination the waters in front of Palermo where it will arrive at the beginning of May. Thus will begin the crucial phase for the recovery of the Bayesian, the sailing ship of the British tycoon Mike Lynck sunk on August 19 last year off the coast of Porticello.

    In reality, the preparatory phases for recovery will begin exactly in a week, next Monday, April 26. Before the "Hebo Lift 10" platform comes into action, the wreck, which lies at a depth of 49 meters, will be harnessed and then its huge mast will be cut. This is necessary to prevent the spillage of fuel that is still in the boat's tanks.





    Then, when the platform from Holland arrives at the beginning of May, what remains of the Bayesian will be pulled up by a crane and then transported to the port of Termini Imerese at the disposal of experts and magistrates who are investigating the causes of the disaster in which seven people lost their lives. In addition to Lynck, his 18-year-old daughter Hannah, the president of Morgan Stanley International Jonathan Bloomer and his wife Judy, the lawyer Chris Morvillo with his wife Neda and the ship's cook Recaldo Thomas also died.

    On the causes of the accident at the moment there are only hypotheses. The recovery of the wreck could be decisive in ascertaining which of the many circulated in recent months is the most credible. There was talk of an accident due to bad weather conditions with winds up to 100 kilometers per hour, but also of a possible human error of those who would have left the doors of the boat open which would have begun to take on water until it sank. To get to the most evocative ones of an act of a malicious nature that sank a sailing ship defined as unsinkable.

    Recently, a study, in which the University of Bologna, CNR and Agenzia Italia Meteo collaborated, hypothesized that the Bayesan would have sunk due to a downburst, an insidious condition of descending winds that can be generated by thunderstorms. The start of the recovery operations of the sailing ship will be followed by hundreds of journalists, but also tourists and onlookers, arriving from all over the world.
     
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    As expected, a simple case becomes convoluted to hide reality.

    Bayesian was a motorboat with a gigantic sloop rig.

    Unable to head into the wind, caught between the rig and the rudder blade, the downburst (which was surely even worse, much worse, than simulated with CFD) knocked it over, and since it wasn't a sailboat but a motorboat, it flooded and sank.
     
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    Bayesian overturns

    even assuming it wasn't a motorboat and

    even assuming a horizontal (!?) wind (in a down-burst) as in this CFD simulation
     
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    The day i read a naval architect write in this forum, "Since wind force is difficult to calculate..."

    That day i realized this industry has no solution.

    I sincerely propose we start from the beginning: sailboats capable of anchoring in sand.

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