will this work?

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  1. slammer824
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    ok here it is....i know nearly nothing about boats , besides growing up around them like my grandpa having one , i have never attempted to build a real one... back in high school , i was a failing student for 4 years , then finally i got a break. Anyhow , i asked them if i could build something pretty complex and have it count as a grade , So i built an r/c boat with my bro..... i was surfing through the glen l page and i saw a boat named the "KINGPIN" , and that is almost what my rc boat looks like...so is it or would it be possible to blow the plans of my r/c boat up like 20 times and build a full size boat? any help or advice would be great...thanks
     
  2. Doug Lord

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    Blow up

    With a naval architect's help it would be possible-to some extent. But definitely don't attempt this w/o professional advice!
     
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    will this work

    ok , well that seems like a lot of hassle.....well what about using the glen l kingpin boat.... but changing around how far forward the seats and stuff are? on the kingpin it takes up most of the top....thats pretty ugly and not modern. are any modifications like that possible? thats really the only difference in my little boat and that one.
     
  4. D'ARTOIS
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    It can be done e.g. one may copy the general profile of the boat making the according calculations, that's as far as one can go and should go. All centers of gravity will change once you are going to inflate your model. And there are a few in a yacht to consider.
     
  5. slammer824
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    will this work

    well me being the extreme novice that i am , i have no clue as to how to go about figuring that out....i really would like to try to build this boat...between my brother and i , i am sure we could do it....at least the hull that is , but before even buying it i would want to know from a pro's word how exactly i should go about this , and still have it balance properly... is there someone that i can talk to that would be willing to walk me through the steps?
     
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    You cannot come out of the blue and say "Hey, I want to build a boat," - it doesn't work that way. You should go through a learning process first. First to get the understanding of what's all about - materials, buildingmethods, drawings etc. What about skills? Which material you are familiar with - that you may work with?
    Lot's of questions.
    Show us the model - a picture does more saying than a whole book.
     
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    ok....as for the materials and reading....i will do as much studying as possible , but to any novice there will alwyas be questions. i dunno if the pictures worked , but the differance in the 2 boats is not huge...just the cockpit , its back a lot farther , and is a lot smaller. and i forgot to tahnk you for trying to help me , so thanks , i appreciate it and look forward to having lots more help as the days go by.
     

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    ok i only see one of the pics...let me try to get the other one up there...
     

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  9. PAR
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    Building a boat hull actually accounts for a pretty small percentage of the total effort, materials, equipment, hardware and energy to complete a project such as yours.

    Frankly, turning the RC model into a real boat, by scaling it up isn't possible, for a number of reasons that need not be explained here. Suffice it to say it can't be done as you envision it. A boat could be designed and patterned after the model, in fact the model looks very similar to several full size craft that were commonly available 10 years ago, but this should be done by a designer or NA.

    Since you're an amateur by admission, you'll be way out of your league to design it alone. Using the Glen-L design as a base for the boat is a good idea, though the two are quite different hull shapes, they can be made to look similar. Again, since you're very new to this full size building thing, you should carefully look into the reality of boat building by reading some books on the subject. Glen-L's web site offers some good information about construction methods and materials, start there.

    Don't be caught up in the hype about how "easy" it is to build in your backyard, it's not and usual is quite difficult for the first time builder. Also, don't buy into the "saving" fists full of money stuff either. You'll still need to buy a motor, a drive unit (if not an outboard), controls, electronics, instruments, steering system, fuel delivery and storage, cooling system, ground tackle, trailer and accessories, dock lines, fenders, electrical system, plumbing system (usually more then one), and I've not even touched on how the boat looks, changes to the Glen-L design or other considerations, like what to sit on.

    As I said, the hull accounts for a small percentage of the project. Please find out what you're about to get into, before you plop down some hard earned cash. Take a look at materials lists and see how much boat you can afford. Sure it's nice to have a 400 HP small block Chevy tied to a Bravo drive (neither are cheap), but you may want to take a look at the prices for this before you make the decision to get this set of plans.

    As far as changes to the plans, if you stick with cosmetic changes you'll be okay, but dramatic changes in the deck and accommodations of this boat will toss off the balance, which will require someone re-trim the boat. This can be done on paper before you build or you can do it after you build, but that may require some stuff getting ripped out and moved around. Generally, it best to have it worked out before you build.
     

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    well i have to thank you for your advice , after reading that im not so sure boat building is going to be my thing. not that its to difficult but because of the money... i did not consider everything ...and i know theres still more after all the things you did. i think i could still try to plan out how i could make it work , but for now i think i may just find a boat to use for a while and accumulate some parts , just like i do with car parts...then when it comes time to build it wont be such a shock....thanks again
     
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