Will $5/gallon gas change the next boat you buy?

Discussion in 'Powerboats' started by IMP-ish, Aug 11, 2011.

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Will $5/gallon gas change the next boat you buy?

  1. Yes – going smaller

    8 vote(s)
    16.0%
  2. Yes – going single

    4 vote(s)
    8.0%
  3. Yes – going slower

    27 vote(s)
    54.0%
  4. Yes – going lighter

    13 vote(s)
    26.0%
  5. No

    17 vote(s)
    34.0%
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  1. sdowney717
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    sdowney717 Senior Member

    Ok , just a little of God in my post.
    Is God religious, NO!, Only men are ritualists who think God hears them for their many words..
    but He is real. He watches to see what men will do and even so it is all predetermined, the courses of the Nations, even your very selves, all you days are written down before even one of them came to be.

    In Medieval days they would draw paintings of the saints in Heaven watching the earth and those writhing in Hell fire.
     
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  2. brian eiland
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    You certainly provided us with lots of reading material. It may take some time to get thru this,....and try to verify the correctness of such claims.

    That first one was interesting:
    http://www.viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html

    ...but the author of this one is a little suspect..:?:
    http://www.rense.com/general75/zoil.htm
     
  3. sdowney717
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    yes, have fun reading.
    I have evolved my thinking and used to believe in 'peak oil'.
    Now I have learned hydrocarbons are present even at the formation of planets, Titan has a hydrocarbon ocean and obviously all that is abiotic in origin. Telescopes have discovered clouds of alcohols in space.
    http://www.labnews.co.uk/news/giant-cloud-of-space-alcohol-found/
    So makes sense to me earth oil is also vastly abiotic even from its original creation. We drill and find oil at very deep levels, 40,000 feet which is far far below any fossil life primordial activity.

    http://www.universetoday.com/12800/titan-has-hundreds-of-times-more-liquid-hydrocarbons-than-earth/

     
  4. fredsnotdead
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    The funny part about the "peak oil" and Hubbert curve is that there's a lot of oil wells drilled that are dry. So if it could be predicted to the point of no return, wouldn't they always find oil when drilling for it?
     
  5. sdowney717
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    I would like to know the percentage of dry holes drilled on USA theory of fossil origin versus percentage of dry holes drilled on Russian theory of abiotic formation to get a handle on what you ask.

    as is stated here
    http://www.viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html
     
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    sdowney717 Senior Member

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    sdowney717 Senior Member

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  9. troy2000
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    If oil is abiotic in origin instead of organic, why would oil companies bother to hire palentogists to identify and analyze microfossils found in drill cuttings while exploring for oil?
     
  10. fredsnotdead
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    I like the "save billions" remark of ole Vlad. Oil is the one thing that makes markets, economics, and rational thought processes go through some type of demented time-warp where nothing applies, and basically anything goes. "Saves billions" is what will incentiveize them to go after more of the same if they're successful at it with absolutely no effects to the world in general because supply and demand issues don't matter when you've got every politician in the world by the short-hairs.
    I just dug up an article about Thomas Gold, aptly named THE STRANGE HERESIES OF THOMAS GOLD(Playboy, November 2005), whereas his friends and peers labled him as a kook for his abiotic theory. The naysayers were many and he challenged their devotion to the old schools of stale thought processes, and even if any of his detractors had agreed with him in the slightest, NONE of them had the stones to stand by him or objectively review his theories.

    He was more than likely correct with his hypothesis, and yet here we are 32 years later(he first proposed the theory in 1980)doing the same stupid things, for the same stupid reasons. I knew there was a reason(lol, yea that was the ONLY reason why) why I kept that issue.
     
  11. sdowney717
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    here is some info on that.
    Perhaps the oil just fills the cracks crevices and porosities of the sedimentary rocks as it migrates upwards and these tiny fossils are simply just incidentally present. I think oil would preferentially be attracted to particular types of rock structures underground and those rocks may just hold more oil due to the millenia of time as the oil moved around in the rocks. Obviously certain areas underground are more likely to be oil reservoirs than others as those rocks are more condusive to holding oil.

    Do all sedimentary rocks hold large amounts of oil, I dont think so as then there would be fewer dry holes drilled. So is the oil made in those rocks or is it just moving into those rocks having been formed deeper down in the mantle?

    http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/fosrec/ONeill.html
     
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    Of course not all all sedimentary rock holds oil; that's why they study the microfossils. I'm not a geologist or paleontologist, but I know that certain types of forams, which are basically amoebas with shells, are found in river deltas. Ancient deltas are more likely than most sedimentary rock formations to have oil in them. So if you start seeing those particular microfossils in the cuttings, you know you're drilling into an ancient delta and have a good chance of finding oil.

    Why do some exploratory holes come up dry? That one's pretty obvious. Because they don't always know what's there, thousands of feet down, until they start drilling. And even then there's no guarantee. No one has ever claimed that all ancient deltas produce oil.

    But petroleum industry executives aren't noted for spending corporate money on benevolent works and charities. If they're hiring paleontologists it's because doing so helps the bottom line, not because they're providing college grad's with make-work out of the goodness of their hearts to help pay off student loans.

    The simple fact is that while all ancient life isn't associated with oil deposits, all oil deposits are associated with ancient life.=:)
     
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    Because they are seekers of knowledge.
     
  14. troy2000
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    No. It's because they're seekers of the bottom line. And paying paleontologists to analyze what they're drilling through helps them find more oil and maximize profits.... which isn't a bad thing, don't get me wrong. After all, they're in business to make money.
     

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    hoytedow Wood Butcher

    The bottom line is green anything is a vehicle for laundering money back to Obama.
     
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