Why I'm Following Sven Yrvind

Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by sharpii2, May 7, 2020.

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Do you believe Sven's latest Ex Lex will make it to New Zeeland.

  1. Nope.

    52.9%
  2. Probably.

    23.5%
  3. Almost certainly.

    23.5%
  1. A II
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    There you go again, making something different from what has been said, just like you've twisted every bit of info so far, and now also ripping a pic off Sven's website without providing a proper link for reference and credits, and also claiming that you wonder what the mass is, while right above where you've got the pic from Sven says: ‘‘weighs 600 kilos empty’’.

    This is not an incident but structural from your first post on these forums like I've mentioned in post #129, it's time you learn a bit of decency, but I have little hope this will happen . . :(

    P.S. - Well, after the remark here, at least a link for reference and credits has been added to the post in question.
     
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  2. Clarkey
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    Exlex does not have what I understand to be a spoon bow. It is more a scow bow.
     
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  3. JPE
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    Good heavens A II tone it down a bit, I'm simply thinking what the mass of the boat was at the time of the test sails, because it sailed just fine then. It would be very interesting to know what is the current mass, food, water and all in the boat.

    You going on a personal attack against me after a totally normal question does speak volumes of your personality. Not that I would care, since this is the internet.

    So to get back on track: I added the links to the page, and as a backup, to the picture itself. Thank you A II for pointing out the empty weight of the boat, as I clarified above, I'm wondering about what the whole setup weighted in that picture.
     
  4. A II
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    Sven calls it a spoon bow, for myself I've always regarded it as a scow bow, or maybe a bit of a cross with a spoon bow.

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  5. JPE
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    This may be a language/translation issue, never paid much attention to it, just followed Sven's wording.

    Generally speaking it does look like scow bow would be the more correct english term.
     
  6. A II
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    The much missed Paul (Anthony) Riccelli, PAR on many boat forums (R.I.P.), has a 18¼' (5.56 m) LOD design, Discrete (RYD-14.11), with various options for the: keel — draft — hull length — cabin length — cockpit length — rig — build method — stern form — bow form, including a spoon bow.

    PAR yachts - Riccelli Yacht DesignSailboatsDiscrete (RYD-14.11) (clickable pics and drawings for enlargement)

    ‘‘ . . . . Discrete is a real ocean capable, little cruiser. Her stability range is very high and she's about as small a boat, as I'd want to go out into deep blue water with. . . . . . . . She's a real little ship and will bring you home with comfort and safety, a feature just not seen in most 18' sailors. . . . . ’’

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    ‘‘ . . . . The gaff sloop shows the clipper knee bow, with trail boards and all. . . . . ’’

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    ‘‘ . . . . The schooner rig version shows the spoon bow (which I prefer) . . . . ’’

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    ‘‘ . . . . Also available as a hard chine, using taped seam build methods . . . . ’’
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    See PAR's Liquid Joinery page for tips & tricks.
     
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  7. A II
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    I've posted the above in post #141 as an example of a spoon bow in ± Sven's ocean capable boat size range, for any responses on it related to Sven, please post them here.

    For any possible responses on the above Discrete (RYD-14.11) not related to Sven I've copy pasted the post to the ‘‘Random Chip Thread’’ post #6, to not distract this thread's main topic with it.
     
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    Also flare in the sides creates extra deck beam, which creates extra upside down stability, which is the last thing you want in such a boat, unless you set off with a bucket full of EPIRBs to get you ass saved a few times at least, that is if they can reach you and come in time for rescue.
     
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    Re post #112:

    Sven's argument against adding a hollow keel beam just wide enough to contain the freshwater stock and the batteries and the anchors plus anchor chains, accessible through a few (watertight) sole hatches, to the current ExLex II for more leeway resistance and more storage, could be that besides the mentioned tripping over the keel and reduced shallow water abilities it also brings the center of buoyancy down, which is undesirable for stability, but my guess is total stability will even further improve if the added shallow hollow keel beam is kept very narrow to only contain very narrow batteries and demountable anchors and the other heavy stuff and the fresh water stock, and if also the existing ballast is brought down to the new keel sole. To keep it narrow glassed over plywood would be better than foam for this add on, I believe.
     
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  10. JPE
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  11. A II
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    I hope someone buys ExLex II and gives her some modifications like I've suggested in post #112 and #144, and also fix the current minor leakages in the fore and aft of the boat, as well as fixing the condensation issues of the hatches when planning trips through cold regions. It would be good for Sven's finances to have some money from the sale of ExLex II to start the build of a new boat, and an easy start for the new owner, however the Azores is a hard place to sell such a boat.

    Hope he enters Horta good, he talks about that now, maybe someone will give him a tow into the harbor when he approaches Faial Island.

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    ‘‘ The City of Horta and Horta Bay, as seen from Espalamaca, showing the marina, the old dock, and volcanic cones, Monte Escuro and Monte da Guia ’’
     
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  12. Will Gilmore
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    Will Gilmore Senior Member

    My wife and I did a painting on the wall in Horta that they later featured on the marina brochure, way back in the mid-eighties.

    It's a picturesque island, along with Pico, across the channel.

    -Will (Dragonfly)
     
  13. bajansailor
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    bajansailor Marine Surveyor

    I would love to return to Horta again one day, and spend longer there to explore properly - the other islands in the Azores as well.
    I spent two days there 8 years ago while crewing on a yacht delivery from here to England, and the only place we had time to visit was an obligatory (and welcome) pilgrimage to Peter's Cafe Sport.
    Will, have you got a photo of the painting that yourselves did on the wall? I guess it might have been covered over by somebody else by now (?)
    We just did a little painting on the quay by where we were moored - I saw a picture of it a couple of years later, and it had already almost disappeared, from footprints scuffing it.
     
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    Maybe the mid 80s Gilmores painting is still there in this 2012 video ?

     
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  15. JPE
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    Does anyone know what happened to the first Exlex?
     
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