Where can I find the type of ship?

Apparently, Herreshock, you give nothing without a good triple dose of First World shaming, political guilt for the actions of our great...grand parents, and a healthy side of virtue signaling.

@sun, the essence of what Herreshock offered you is:

John Shuttelworth lives on the Isle of Wight and has written "about safety concerns regarding multihulls and Adastra is a fine multi passenger design..."

Here's a link to the Shuttelworth website: Considerations for Seaworthiness https://shuttleworthdesign.com/NESTalk.html

-Will

 

its called isle of Wight near Southampton and I was going to recover a contesa sailboat from there once and has strong currents.

Cultural appropiation and cultural denial is a big issue also for germanic people that have no clue about germanic heritage before Christian bleaching, and not only look at the "grandfathers" marvels they did everywhere few decades ago in the name of germanic tribes sellout mentality and Mediterranean mythology appropriation and Mediterranean fetishism but also look also now.

Polynesian sailing techniques and crafts are still largely ignored besides the 3000 years of the real golden "age of sail" of Polynesian transpacific sailing, besides transindic sailing history still largely ignored

 

"The first voyage of James Cook was a combined Royal Navy and Royal Society expedition to the south Pacific Ocean aboard HMS Endeavour, from 1768 to 1771" First voyage of James Cook - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_voyage_of_James_Cook


"Wooden double-hulled sailing vessels Invention II and Experiment.
Designed by Sir William Perry - essentially like a catamaran.
Invention II was built at Arklow 1663, said to be with two clinker-built hulls and able to carry 30 men.
Experiment was built at Deptford, launched late 1664, of 60ft length and carried 16 guns.
Experiment was lost in the Bay of Biscay returning from Porto in a storm in October 1665." Innovative vessel Experiment https://www.liverpool.ac.uk/~cmi/books/miscWr/experiment.html

I love cultural appropriation. If not for Marco Polo, we wouldn't be growing tomato's in our garden, or be eating Italian spaghetti, or celebrating the 4th of July with fireworks, or having made it to the Moon, or using cell phones, or posting on the Internet, or... In fact, it was probably cultural appropriation that was responsible for the wide spread use of irrigation, farming in general, plumbing, the bow and arrow... I, for one, am happy not living in a cave curled under animal hides for Winter warmth.
Human kind advances better as a whole, interconnected species, not as a disparate group of isolated inbred cultures. Communication of ideas across the globe has always been the biggest asset of humanity.

-Will

 

Anyone that claims polynesian techniques are completely ignored is either isolated from the world or simply being fascetious. I think a member here is the latter. As an example to show he is completely and utterly wrong I would name Hobie Cat, Nacra, Fountain-Pajot and Nautitech. Since the Earth is flat and obviously shallow at the edges to hold the water in, catamarans are the perfect craft to visit said edge.

 

If you knew your germanic tribes ancestors history of struggle against Romans and apartheid walls you wouldn't be romanticising about these things of supremacist grabbing without acknowledging the culture you have taken that from

It was Mediterraneans who copied and culturally appropriated each other around millenniums while germanic people was segregated and all fetishised Greek despots as supremacist Aristotle just hated german people treating them as inferior

We dont know about real history beyond pseudo-history propaganda, textbooks, media and movies, and besides the fetishised figures as marco polo, the indic ocean had plenty of sailing trade exchange for thousands of years between Mediterranean and Asian countries

And still today the majority of fruit and food variety in southsaharian countries, southamerica, southasia, etc is largely ignored besides local medicinal plants, bamboo varieties, mushrooms, edible algae, etc and this has been ignored by supremacist ultra-processed food chains that appropriate just a fraction of it

We still are jingoist little town people besides posing as cosmopolitan tourists scam, and the age of personal sail and culture and food exchange has not happened yet

 

Rubbish. Many of us know about "germanic tribes ancestors history of struggle against Romans"..... after all those nasty Romans and Celts had the gall (or is that Gaul?) to try to resist Germanic invasions. Oh, poor little Germanic tribes - all they wanted to do was walk in and conquer other peoples and some of those people dared to resist until the Germans chopped them up. Quintili Vare, legiones redde!

Aristotle died over 2000 years ago, it's probably time to stop getting upset with him. If you want to bring up Germans and feelings of racial superiority then you may open a powder keg of more recent history.

It's hard to know what the "age of personal sail and culture and food exchange was not happened yet" is meant to mean, but plenty of us here have "personal sail" and sailing. Leisure sailing in general is also quite well aware of polynesian sailing. We're not as aware of Indian Ocean sailing but that's because not much of the technology they used translates well to leisure sailing.

 

Absolutely wrong. The corporate maritime world is NOT lawless and that is simply a fantasy of yours. Corporations build and operate craft that are under the Col Regs, under survey, operated by licensed mariners, ruled by SOLAS, the UNCLOS, the IMO and national laws. Leisure sailing craft are normally designed for European regulations and World Sailing regulations.

It is simply completely wrong to say that the maritime world is "lawless".

What the heck is a "an individualistic, nationalistic, credit scammed boating tourist product"?

What's wrong with an "individualistic" boat? Do you not like individuals to have boats of the type they choose?
What's wrong with "nationalistic" boats? Do you not want individuals to have boats designed for the country in which they live? Should Germans have to sail boats designed for New Zealanders?
Who is "credit scammed"?
What is a "boating tourist"? Do you mean someone who cruises their yacht? What's wrong with that?

What experience, research-based boating knowledge or education do you have that makes you that we are so inferior that we need you to lecture us all about such things?

 

I believe Herreshock should be removed from this forum. He is a troll with bizarre political views that have no place here. There are forums that cater to his rants.

 

Thanks！

 

Communication of ideas across the globe has always been the biggest asset of humanity.