Where are all the small 2 strokes in the USA?

Discussion in 'Outboards' started by DennisRB, Oct 25, 2011.

  1. DennisRB
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    I live in Australia and have a yacht in the USA which I am sailing back next year. I am trying to organize a tender and want a 10 foot rib that will plane. So I need decent power but want light weight so a 2 stroke makes sense. In AU I can get a 8-9.8hp Tohatsu or a 8 hp Yammy 2 stroke that weigh in at 26kg the 4 strokes are closer to 40kg for the same power.

    Where can I get a 10 hp 2 stroke in the USA? I take it this has something to do with emission laws?
     
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  4. cyclops2
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    Buy a used 9.9 Evinrude / Johnson. I have one with electric start in a 16' Aluminum Lowe open boat for running around & shallow water work.
    The engine is really a FACTORY derated 15 hp to meet the limit of 9.9 hp on many small lakes.
    Put it on a 12' boat & you can EASILY back flip it in a breeze.
    At 73 I can pull with just 2 fingers & start it everytime on the first pull. Has a remote setup for a good weight distribution.
     
  5. DennisRB
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    DennisRB Senior Member

    Cyclops, that derated 15 will weigh around 40kg as opposed to 26.

    So is there no way I can order one of these 2 strokes I like?
     
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    Peggy New Member

    two-stroke outboard emissions and regulation

    The emissions reason: AKA "the bong effect". Australia didn't regulate, relying on expected technical improvements arising from regulation affecting the much larger USA and Euro markets.
     
  7. cyclops2
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    Correction on weights

    I am 73. I can lift 50 to 60 # of motor & fertilizer with effort.
    The 9.9 hp is right at 60 #


    Those are 1990 ish weights. New motors BETTER be lighter !!
     
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    Rethink your dink? My 9.3 foot dink planes two easily with a merc 3 hp. It's a three sheet design and weighs 84# painted.
     
  9. Easy Rider
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    No small ones new anymore that I know of.
    Just buy an 8hp Yamaha 2 stroke twin. 60lbs.
    I have one and it's a very good little engine.
    My 6hp 2 stroke Johnson has about the same power.
    Just buy used.
     
  10. DennisRB
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    Since we are on the subject, I'm 30 weigh 210 pounds and lift weights as a hobby. I can easily lift a the weight of a 15hp outboard above my head. The thing is trying to carry a dingy with said motor up the beach, or taking the motor from the yacht to the dingy and back in rough water will not be easy. If I can get an outboard with the same power and almost half the weight why not? My girlfriend has to be able to handle it too.
     
  11. DennisRB
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    I know of the Yamaha 2 stroke 8hp and it is a great motor. If only I can get one.
     
  12. DennisRB
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    Got any pics of the setup?
     
  13. michael pierzga
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    Check out Google...A company, I believe Canadian, sells seconds hand, nearly new , small outboard motors that are used on freshwater lakes as Camp rental boats. I cant remember the name of the company...

    The small 2 cylinder 2 strokes like the Yamaha are fantastic tender engines. Im using a 8 hp Yamaha now. 26kg....and plenty powerful

    many sites selling used.
    http://www.smalloutboards.com/
     
  14. DennisRB
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    Thanks Michael. I agree that 8 yammy is the perfect tender engine. Light but with enough power to plane with 2 or 3 people.

    That website is great. I found a 8hp merc, but it is 34kg which is getting up to the weight of a 4 stroke 9.9 which are around 37kg. Does anyone know if that 8hp merc is a derated higher output engine?

    I even found my engine of choice there the Tohatsu 9.8 which is also 27kg. So 1kg more than the yammy 8 for an extra 2hp. This motor is listed everywhere at 59-60lbs and 26-27kg yet this is the pic of the plate on the website? Does this mean the range is from 25-32kg depending on specification - electric start etc?

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    Also is 120psi good compression for a 2 stroke? My car has 160psi.
     

  15. Frosty

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    Ille take that bet.
     
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