What Effect Coming Ice Age on North of 30th Parallel Boating?

I'd have to second that. (Sorry Mark!)

It's a pretty well known fact that ocean levels are rising, no matter what the cause might be.

Drop an ice cube like this baby into the drink and the glass will get a little more full:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larsen_Ice_Shelf

Then, there are more than one set of people on very low lying islands that can no longer live on them:

http://www.good.is/post/shrinking-the-rising-sea-level-story-to-a-single-island/

 

You mean it contradicts the best fudged and manipulated data available. Do you remember the "best scientific minds" being exposed for their conspiratorial lies?

 

The satellites are controlled by NASA and the head of NASA is unbelievable.

http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2010/10/nasa_administrator_charles_bol.html

 

The upper-most parts of those river banks will be above sea level before too long.

 

especially after the fake moon landings

 

The islands are undergoing natural subsidence. The likely cause of the disappearance of Atlantis, which disappeared almost 12000 years ago, probably in the Azores. Check the article on subsidence and plate techtonics. Japan is being dragged under China, you know.

 

hoy wants to sell submarine river front property

 

As someone who developed instruments on NASA/ESA satellites and received and analyzed the telemetry from the spacecraft first hand, I can assure you that data NASA delivers is 100% unfiltered and reaches you without any bias whatsoever.

The data is looked at by people like my former self, gathered in computers and put straight from the spacecraft into graphing and data analysis programs. You then pore over the graphs and look for anything interesting. You look for trends, patterns, anything that's not just random noise. You write computer programs (or routines in IDL or something) to comb the data for any aberrations or patterns or anything unusual.

What you see published from NASA is strictly real data and patterns that arise in the data. Nothing is made up, nothing has a political agenda and every single scientist I have ever worked with (at NASA) has had an incredible amount of integrity. To be a scientist means you are after the truth and you work hard at it. You are not concerned with politics in the least (sports either). You are only concerned with truth and understanding the world we live in.

I remember having to stay up for 24 hours a few times in a week to get the job done and meet a launch date. These are some of the most dedicated workers I've ever met in any line of work. They are committed to furthering our understanding of the universe around us.

If I recall, NOAA is the operation that controls most of the Earthward facing satellites. NASA is concerned with things happening in orbit and above.

 

That's a good explanation and I buy it.

Still, if you throw the ice cube in the drink, the cup's going to be a little more full - especially when that ice cube is the size of Rhode Island.

 

there it is, the deniers live in a different world a world as strange to rational human beings as the world as seen by my goose would be alien to us

 

Cat, as a life-long(except for being in Kentucky for 11 years in the 1950's and early 1960's) Florida native who has spent many hours haunting the coast over almost 50 years now. I can categorically state with no hesitation or doubt that I have witnessed no sea-level rise except the normal incoming tide. As you may have noticed, Florida is quite flat. I would have noticed. So would a lot of others. I have been camping at Fort DeSoto since 1962. It is still there. It is still as high above the water as it was way back then. It is likely to be there until a hurricane washes it away.

 

I haven't noticed any rise either. I'm with you on that.

I don't know where that graph came from up above or if it's real, but if you were to go by it, in all the 50 years you've been haunting the coast, it only rose 6 or 7 centimeters, or 2" to 3".

I may be underestimating your ability, but I know I couldn't see something move 2"-3" over the span of 50 years.

Looking back at that graph again, it bothers me. What is all that crazy deviation?? Why are the readings so far off, but then "averaged?" There appears to be something wrong with the data in that graph.

 

Well, there you have it. I bow to your superior intellect.

It is funny that all this "sky is falling" panic can be generated over a rise in the ocean of only 7 cm in a span of 50 years. If all the ice melted it wouldn't be enough to drown your chihuahua.

 

http://www.climate.org/about/index.html

 

I remember some climatologists being wrongly accused of falsifying and destroying data, based on misinterpretation and misrepresention of a tiny handful of emails -- that were winnowed out of tens of thousands of emails over many years.

Unfortunately for your beliefs, what you remember isn't what really happened. Those climatologists were hardly 'exposed'; they were exonerated by every single genuine investigation, public and private.