What Do We Think About Climate Change

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    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=The_2008_International_Conference_on_Climate_Change

    "The conference was organised and "sponsored" by the Heartland Institute, a U.S. think tanks that in preceding years received substantial funding from Exxon for its work downplaying the significance of global warming. "

    "At the event, skeptics unveiled their response to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change (NIPCC) report, edited by corporate-funded skeptic Fred Singer, argued that "recent climate change stems from natural causes." Eilperin notes that "while the IPCC enlisted several hundred scientists from more than 100 countries to work over five years to produce its series of reports, the NIPCC document is the work of 23 authors from 15 nations, some of them not scientists."[1]"

    "The New York Times reports that while the Heartland conference "was largely framed around science ... when an organizer made an announcement asking all of the scientists in the large hall to move to the front for a group picture, 19 men did so." ...

    The Heartland Institute offered "$1,000 to those willing to give a talk," and "a free weekend at the Marriott Marquis in Manhattan, including travel costs, to all elected officials wanting to attend,"
     
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    Somebody asked upwards in this thread for peer reviewed articles contradicting global warming alarmism. I've found this (partial) list:


    Solar Influence on Climate

    Rhodes Fairbridge and the idea that the solar system regulates the Earth's climate (Journal of Coastal Research, SI 50, pp. 955-968, 2007) - Richard Mackey

    Solar activity variations and global temperature (Energy [Oxford], vol. 18, no. 12, pp. 1273-1284, 1993) - Eigil Friis-Christensen

    Solar and climate signal records in tree ring width from Chile (AD 1587–1994) (Planetary and Space Science, vol. 55, issue 1-2, pp. 158-164, January 2007) - Nivaor Rodolfo Rigozoa, Daniel Jean Roger Nordemann, Heitor Evangelista da Silva, Mariza Pereira de Souza Echer, Ezequiel Echer

    Solar correlates of Southern Hemisphere mid-latitude climate variability (International Journal of Climatology, vol. 22, issue 8, pp. 901-915, 27 May 2002) - Ronald E. Thresher

    Solar Cycle Variability, Ozone, and Climate (Science, vol. 284. no. 5412, pp. 305 - 308, 9 April 1999) - Drew Shindell, David Rind, Nambeth Balachandran, Judith Lean, Patrick Lonergan

    Solar Forcing of Drought Frequency in the Maya Lowlands (Science, vol. 292. no. 5520, pp. 1367-1370, 18 May 2001) - David A. Hodell, Mark Brenner, Jason H. Curtis, Thomas Guilderson

    Solar total irradiance variation and the global sea surface temperature record (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 96, no. D2, pp. 2835–2844, 1991) - George C. Reid

    Solar variability and climate change: Geomagnetic aa index and global surface temperature (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 25, issue 7, pp. 1035-1038, 1998) - E. W. Cliver, V. Boriakoff, J. Feynman

    Solar variability and ring widths in fossil trees (Il Nuovo Cimento C, vol. 19, no. 4, July 1996) - S. Cecchini, M. Galli, T. Nanni, L. Ruggiero

    Solar Variability Over the Past Several Millennia (Space Science Reviews, vol. 125, issue 1-4, pp. 67-79, 22 December 2006) - J. Beer, M. Vonmoos, R. Muscheler

    Suggestive correlations between the brightness of Neptune, solar variability, and Earth's temperature (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34, L08203, 2007) - H. B. Hammel, G.W. Lockwood

    Surface warming by the solar cycle as revealed by the composite mean difference projection (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34, L14703, 2007) - Charles D. Camp, Ka Kit Tung

    The link between the solar dynamo and climate - The evidence from a long mean air temperature series from Northern Ireland (Irish Astronomical Journal, vol. 21, no. 3-4, pp. 251-254, 09/1994) - C.J. Butler, D.J. Johnston

    The Sun–Earth Connection in Time Scales from Years to Decades and Centuries (Space Science Reviews, v. 95, issue 1/2, pp. 625-637, 2001) - T. I. Pulkkinen, H. Nevanlinna, P. J. Pulkkinen, M. Lockwood

    Variable solar irradiance as a plausible agent for multidecadal variations in the Arctic-wide surface air temperature record of the past 130 years (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 32, L16712, 2005) - Willie Soon

    Variability of the solar cycle length during the past five centuries and the apparent association with terrestrial climate (Journal of Atmospheric and Terrestrial Physics, vol. 57, issue 8, pp. 835-845, July 1995) - K. Lassen, E. Friis-Christensen

    Variations in Radiocarbon Concentration and Sunspot Activity (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 66, p. 273, 01/1961) – M. Stuiver

    Variations in the Earth's Orbit: Pacemaker of the Ice Ages (Science, vol. 194. no. 4270, pp. 1121-1132, 10 December 1976) - J. D. Hays, John Imbrie, N. J. Shackleton

    Variations of solar coronal hole area and terrestrial lower tropospheric air temperature from 1979 to mid-1998: astronomical forcings of change in Earth's climate? (New Astronomy, vol. 4, issue 8, pp. 563-579, January 2000) - W. Soon, S. Baliunas, E. S. Posmentier, P. Okeke

    What do we really know about the Sun-climate connection? (Advances in Space Research, vol. 20, issue 4-5, pp. 913-921, 1997) - Eigil Friis-Christensen, Henrik Svensmark

    Will We Face Global Warming in the Nearest Future? (Geomagnetism i Aeronomia, vol. 43, pp. 124-127, 2003) - V. S. Bashkirtsev, G. P. Mashnich


    Solar Cosmic Rays

    Solar variability influences on weather and climate: Possible connections through cosmic ray fluxes and storm intensification (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 94, no. D12, pp. 14783-14792, October 1989) - Brian A, Tinsley, Geoffrey M. Brown, Philip H. Scherrer

    Hale-cycle effects in cosmic-ray intensity during the last four cycles (Astrophysics and Space Science, vol. 246, no. 1, March 1996) - H. Mavromichalaki, A. Belehaki, X. Rafios, I. Tsagouri

    Variation of Cosmic Ray Flux and Global Cloud Coverage--a Missing Link in Solar-Climate Relationships (Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, vol. 59, no. 11, pp. 1225-1232, July 1997) - Henrik Svensmark, Eigil Friis-Christensen

    Influence of Cosmic Rays on Earth's Climate (Physical Review Letters, vol. 81, issue 22, pp. 5027-5030, 30 November 1998) - Henrik Svensmark

    Reply to comments on "Variation of cosmic ray flux and global cloud coverage--a missing link in solar-climate relationships" (Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, vol. 62, issue 1, pp. 79-80, January 2000) - Henrik Svensmark, Eigil Friis-Christensen

    Cosmic rays and Earth's climate (Space Science Reviews, v. 93, issue 1/2, pp. 175-185, July 2000) - Henrik Svensmark

    Cosmic rays and climate--The influence of cosmic rays on terrestrial clouds and global warming (Astronomy & Geophysics, vol. 41, issue 4, pp 4. 18-4. 22, August 2000) - E Pallé Bagó, C J Butler

    Cosmic Rays, Clouds, and Climate (Space Science Reviews, v. 94, issue 1/2, pp. 215-230, November 2000) - Nigel Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

    Low cloud properties influenced by cosmic rays (Physical Review Letters, vol. 85, issue 23, pp. 5004-5007, December 2000) - Nigel D Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

    On the relationship of cosmic ray flux and precipitation (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 28, no. 8, pp. 1527–1530, 2001) - Dominic R. Kniveton and Martin C. Todd

    Altitude variations of cosmic ray induced production of aerosols: Implications for global cloudiness and climate (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 107, no. A7, pp. SIA 8-1, July 2002) - Fangqun Yu

    The Spiral Structure of the Milky Way, Cosmic Rays, and Ice Age Epochs on Earth (New Astronomy, vol. 8, issue 1, pp. 39-77, January 2003) - Nir J. Shaviv

    Galactic cosmic ray and El Niño-Southern Oscillation trends in International Satellite Cloud Climatology Project D2 low-cloud properties (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 108, no. D6, pp. AAC 6-1, March 2003) - Nigel Marsh, Henrik Svensmark

    The effects of galactic cosmic rays, modulated by solar terrestrial magnetic fields, on the climate (Russian Journal of Earth Sciences, vol. 6, no. 5, October 2004) - V. A. Dergachev, P. B. Dmitriev, O. M. Raspopov, B. Van Geel

    Formation of large NAT particles and denitrification in polar stratosphere: possible role of cosmic rays and effect of solar activity (Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, vol. 4, issue 9/10, pp. 2273-2283, November 2004) - F. Yu

    Long-term variations of the surface pressure in the North Atlantic and possible association with solar activity and galactic cosmic rays (Advances in Space Research, vol. 35, issue 3, pp. 484-490, 2005) - S. V. Veretenenko, V. A. Dergachev, P. B. Dmitriyev

    Galactic Cosmic Rays and Insolation are the Main Drivers of Global Climate of the Earth (arXiv:hep-ph/0506208, June 2005) - V. D. Rusov, I. V. Radin, A. V. Glushkov, V. N. Vaschenko, V. N. Pavlovich, T. N. Zelentsova, O. T. Mihalys, V. A. Tarasov, A. Kolos

    On climate response to changes in the cosmic ray flux and radiative budget (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 110, issue A8, August 2005) - Nir J. Shaviv

    Cosmic rays and the biosphere over 4 billion years (Astronomische Nachrichten, vol. 327, issue 9, Page 871, 2006) - Henrik Svensmark

    The Antarctic climate anomaly and galactic cosmic rays (Physics/0612145v1, December 2006) - Henrik Svensmark

    Interstellar-Terrestrial Relations: Variable Cosmic Environments, The Dynamic Heliosphere, and Their Imprints on Terrestrial Archives and Climate (Space Science Reviews, vol. 127, no. 1-4, December 2006) - K. Scherer, H. Fichtner, T. Borrmann, J. Beer, L. Desorgher, E. Flükiger, H. Fahr, S. Ferreira, U. Langner, M. Potgieter, B. Heber, J. Masarik, N. Shaviv, J. Veizer

    Empirical evidence for a nonlinear effect of galactic cosmic rays on clouds (Royal Society of London Proceedings Series A, vol. 462, issue 2068, p. 1221-1233, April 2006) - R. Giles Harrison, David B. Stephenson

    Cosmoclimatology: a new theory emerges (Astronomy & Geophysics, vol. 48 issue 1, pp. 1. 18-1. 24, February 2007) - Henrik Svensmark

    Evidence for a physical linkage between galactic cosmic rays and regional climate time series (Journal Advances in Space Research, February 2007) - Charles A. Perrya

    200-year variations in cosmic rays modulated by solar activity and their climatic response (Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics, vol. 71, no. 7, July 2007) - O. M. Raspopov, V. A. Dergachev

    On the possible contribution of solar-cosmic factors to the global warming of XX century (Bulletin of the Russian Academy of Sciences: Physics, vo. 71, no. 7, July 2007) - M. G. Ogurtsov

    Cosmic rays and climate of the Earth: possible connection (Comptes Rendus Geosciences, December 2007) - Ilya G. Usoskina, Gennady A. Kovaltsovb

    Galactic Cosmic Rays - Clouds Effect and Bifurcation Model of the Earth Global Climate. Part 1. Theory (arXiv:0803. 2765, Mar 2008) -V. Rusov, A. Glushkov, V. Vaschenko, O. Mihalys, S. Kosenko, S. Mavrodiev, B. Vachev


    Species Extinctions

    Dangers of crying wolf over risk of extinctions (Nature 428, 799, 22 April 2004) - Richard J. Ladle, Paul Jepson, Miguel B. Araújo & Robert J. Whittaker


    Temperatures

    A test of corrections for extraneous signals in gridded surface temperature data (Climate Research, vol. 26: 159-173, 2004) - Ross McKitrick, Patrick J. Michaels

    Analysis of trends in the variability of daily and monthly historical temperature measurements (Climate Research, vol. 10: 27-33, 1998) - Patrick J. Michaels, Robert C. Balling Jr., Russell S. Vose, Paul C. Knappenberger

    Conflicting Signals of Climatic Change in the Upper Indus Basin (Journal of Climate, vol. 19, issue 17, pp. 4276–4293, September 2006) - H. J. Fowler, D. R. Archer

    Disparity of tropospheric and surface temperature trends: New evidence (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 31, L13207, 2004) - David H. Douglass, Benjamin D. Pearson, S. Fred Singer, Paul C. Knappenberger, Patrick J. Michaels

    Differential trends in tropical sea surface and atmospheric temperatures since 1979 (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 28, no. 1, pp. 183–186, 2001) - J. R. Christy, D. E. Parker, S. J. Brown, I. Macadam, M. Stendel, W. B. Norris

    Documentation of uncertainties and biases associated with surface temperature measurement sites for climate change assessment (American Meteorological Society, 88:6, 913-928, 2007) - R. Pielke Sr., A. J. Nielsen-Gammon, C. Davey, J. Angel, O. Bliss, N. Doesken, M. Cai. , S. Fall, D. Niyogi, K. Gallo, R. Hale, K. G. Hubbard, X. Lin, H. Li, S. Raman

    Does a Global Temperature Exist? (Journal of Non-Equilibrium Thermodynamics, June 2006) - Christopher Essex, Ross McKitrick, Bjarne Andresen

    Estimation and representation of long-term (>40 year) trends of Northern-Hemisphere-gridded surface temperature: A note of caution (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 31, L03209, 2004) - Willie W. H. Soon, David R. Legates, Sallie L. Baliunas

    Multi-scale analysis of global temperature changes and trend of a drop in temperature in the next 20 years (Springer Wien, Volume 95, January, 2007) - Lin Zhen-Shan, Sun Xian

    Nature of observed temperature changes across the United States during the 20th century (Climate Research, vol. 17: 45–53, 2001) - Paul C. Knappenberger, Patrick J. Michaels, Robert E. Davis

    Natural signals in the MSU lower tropospheric temperature record (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 27, no. 18, pp. 2905–2908, 2000) - Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger

    Observed warming in cold anticyclones (Climate Research, vol. 14: 1–6, 2000) - Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger, Robert C. Balling Jr., Robert E. Davis

    Revised 21st century temperature projections (Climate Research, vol. 23: 1–9, 2002) - Patrick J. Michaels, Paul C. Knappenberger, Oliver W. Frauenfeld, Robert E. Davis

    Test for harmful collinearity among predictor variables used in modeling global temperature (Climate Research, vol. 24: 15-18, 2003) - David H. Douglass, B. David Clader, John R. Christy, Patrick J. Michaels, David A. Belsley

    Tropospheric temperature change since 1979 from tropical radiosonde and satellite measurements (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 112, D06102, 2007) - John R. Christy, William B. Norris, Roy W. Spencer, Justin J. Hnilo

    What may we conclude about global tropospheric temperature trends? (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 31, L06211, 2004) - J. R. Christy, W. B. Norris


    Miscellaneous

    A new dynamical mechanism for major climate shifts (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 34, L13705, 2007) - Anastasios A. Tsonis, Kyle Swanson, Sergey Kravtsov

    Climate change 2007: Lifting the taboo on adaptation (Nature 445, 597-598, 8 February 2007) - Roger Pielke Jr., Gwyn Prins, Steve Rayner, Daniel Sarewitz

    Floods, droughts and climate change (South Africa Journal of Science/Suid-Afr. Tydskr. Wet. vol. 91, no. 8, pp. 403-408, Aug. 1995) - W. J. R. Alexander

    Global warming and malaria: a call for accuracy (Lancet Infectious Diseases, vol. 4, issue 6, pp. 323-324, June 2004) - P. Reiter, C. Thomas, P. Atkinson, S. Hay, S. Randolph, D. Rogers, G. Shanks, R. Snow, A. Spielman

    Global Warming and the Next Ice Age (Science, vol. 304. no. 5669, pp. 400-402, 16 April 2004) - Andrew J. Weaver, Claude Hillaire-Marcel

    Gulf Stream safe if wind blows and Earth turns (Nature 428, 601, 8 April 2004) - Carl Wunsch

    Is global warming climate change? (Nature 380, 478, 11 April 1996) - Adrian H. Gordon, John A. T. Bye, Roland A. D. Byron-Scott

    Measurement-based estimation of the spatial gradient of aerosol radiative forcing (Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 33, L11813, 2006) - Toshihisa Matsui, Roger A. Pielke Sr.

    Misdefining "climate change": consequences for science and action (Environmental Science & Policy, vol. 8, issue 6, pp. 548-561, December 2005) - Roger A. Pielke Jr.

    New Little Ice Age Instead of Global Warming? (Energy & Environment, vol. 14, nos. 2-3, pp. 327-350, 1 May 2003) – T. Landscheidt

    No upward trends in the occurrence of extreme floods in central Europe (Nature 425, 166-169, 11 September 2003) - Manfred Mudelsee, Michael Börngen, Gerd Tetzlaff, Uwe Grünewald

    Some Coolness Concerning Global Warming (Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, vol. 71, issue 3, pp. 288–299, March 1990) - Richard S. Lindzen

    The Ever-Changing Climate System: Adapting to Challenges (Cumberland Law Review, 36 No. 3, 493-504, 2006) - J. R.Christy

    Very high-elevation Mont Blanc glaciated areas not affected by the 20th century climate change (Journal of Geophysical Research, vol. 112, D09120, 2007) - C. Vincent, E. Le Meur, D. Six, M. Funk, M. Hoelzle, S. Preunkert
     
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    Very funny Guillermo, do you really expect us to read all that :D

    For one, can you imagine all the people involved there ?

    And the output product at the end of the day is ?

    Would they be involved if there wasn't a financial spinoff in it somewhere ?

    Are they going to control global warming in any way ?
     
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    Cooling Coming Soon

    Habibullo Abdussamatov, supervisor of the Astrometria project of the Russian section of the International Space Station and a researcher at the laboratory of solar physics at the Saint Petersburg-based Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences, says the Mars data ( In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row) is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.

    Abdussamatov believes the recent global warming will be short-lived and that we are actually on the brink of a global cooling, and likely a severe one. He argues Earth has hit its temperature ceiling, demonstrated by cooling currently occurring in the upper layers of the world's oceans.

    In addition, Abddussamatov notes, solar irradiance has begun to fall, likely ushering in a protracted cooling period beginning in 2012-2015.

    The lowest depth of the solar irradiance reaching Earth will occur around 2041 (plus or minus 11 years), Abdussamatov estimates, and will inevitably lead to a deep freeze around 2055-60. The freeze will last into the twenty-second century before temperatures rise again. For now, he says, "we continue to bask in the remains of heat that the planet accumulated over the twentieth century."


    Very interesting:
    The Russian-Ukrainian project ASTROMETRIA

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    From the previous post's link to Astrometria page:

    "The concentration of carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere has risen more than 4% in the past decade, but global warming has practically stopped. It confirms the theory of "solar" impact on changes in the Earth's climate, because the amount of solar energy reaching the planet has drastically decreased during the same period. Had global temperatures directly responded to concentrations of "greenhouse" gases in the atmosphere, they would have risen by at least 0.1 Celsius in the past ten years, however, it never happened. A year ago, many meteorologists predicted that higher levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere would make the year 2007 the hottest in the last decade, but, fortunately, these predictions did not become reality. Hence, increase of carbon dioxide concentration in the atmosphere is not the cause of global warming which has a solar origin and is a part of natural two-century cycle. In 2008, global temperatures would drop slightly, rather than rise, due to unprecedentedly low solar radiation in the past 30 years, and would continue decreasing even if industrial emissions of carbon dioxide reach record levels. By 2041±11, TSI will reach its minimum according to a 200-year cycle, and a deep cooling period will hit the Earth approximately in 2055-2060 (±11). It will last for about 45-65 years. By the mid-21st century the planet will face another Little Ice Age, similar to the Maunder Minimum, because the amount of solar radiation hitting the Earth has been constantly decreasing since the 1990s and will reach its minimum approximately in 2041. The Maunder Minimum occurred between 1645 and 1715, when only about 50 spots appeared on the Sun, as opposed to the typical 40,000-50,000 spots. It coincided with the middle and coldest part of the so called Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America were subjected to bitterly cold winters. However, the thermal inertia of the world's oceans and seas will delay a “deep cooling” of the planet, and the new Ice Age will begin sometime during 2055-2060, probably lasting for several decades. Therefore, the Earth must brace itself for a growing ice cap, rather than rising waters in global oceans caused by ice melting. Mankind will face serious economic, social, and demographic consequences of the coming Ice Age because it will directly affect more than 80% of the earth's population."

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    Dammit Guillermo, I knew it I knew it I knew it :(

    By 2055 I was hoping to have a waterfront property here in Pretoria, courtesy of global warming and rising seas. Will the water retract back to the poles, are we going to lose our water front property status ?

    Where will the 20% be that won't be affected by the severe cold ? I hate cold weather.
     
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    "The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle."
    http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/

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    "The Southern Oscillation and the solar cycle have significant effects on year-to-year global temperature change. Because both of these natural effects were in their cool phases in 2007, the unusual warmth of 2007 is all the more notable. It is apparent that there is no letup in the steep global warming trend of the past 30 years (see 5-year mean curve in Figure 1a).

    "Global warming stopped in 1998," has become a recent mantra of those who wish to deny the reality of human-caused global warming. The continued rapid increase of the five-year running mean temperature exposes this assertion as nonsense. In reality, global temperature jumped two standard deviations above the trend line in 1998 because the "El Niño of the century" coincided with the calendar year, but there has been no lessening of the underlying warming trend."
     
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    October 28, 2008 This just ain't right

    Personally, at this point in time, I think global warming is a myth!

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    Oct 28, 2008.

    Sorry 'bout the crappy pic I took it with my cell phone.
     
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    Fanie, I am with you there, I hate cold, prefer warm & moist.... Keep your thoughts there lad - so are mine :D:D

    I too was looking forward to a waterfront property (more than 70m asl) but these Global cooling doom-sayers came and spoiled my hopes and half of my marketing plan to sell..... I want global warming and the Antarctic research folk seem to feel that is still likely..... Who knows ??? :D:D:D

    Northern hemisphere with its larger proportional land masses will feel the cold because land cools relatively rapidly, whereas the oceans hold their heat/temperature longer.... Pick islands on the windward side of a large landmass like the Caribbean, any Pacific Island country etc for benign or warmer average climate....
     
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    "The facts are simple," says Charles K. Johnson, president of the International Flat Earth Research Society. "The earth is flat."
    http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm

    "During orogenic episodes, the degeneracy pressure could be reduced to values smaller than the gravitational pressure, due to intensification of laser clustering. The result will be contraction of the core and compression at the surface of the Earth. During inter-orogenic periods, laser clustering is decreased and the degeneracy pressure will tend to reach its original value. The net result will be expansion of the core and tension at the surface.
    If this is happening, the Earth is expanding, as a result of EM generation and it is also pulsating as a result of the alternating imbalance between degeneracy and gravitational pressure. One might suppose that at inter-orogenic periods, superimposed upon the Earth’s general expansion due to EM generation, is an additional expansion due to degeneracy pressure, in which case the global surface stress field would be strongly tensional. On the contrary, during orogenic episodes the normally extensional field is hampered by compressional processes. What stage is the Earth at within this cycle now? We are most likely in a quieter expansion phase between the more active orogenic pulses."
    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/8098/EMST-2.html
     
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    Thomas,

    You must have picked up that graph and blurb from that rathole 'realclimate.org'. Only a guess but I say it based on that the fact that the blurb contains a regurgitation of that crap about the '90's-2000's being the hottest years of the last century. In turn all that is based on the MBH-98 'hockey stick graph (Mann, Briffa & Hanson, the brains behind realclimate.org, don't you know :D ) which is now widely discredited, as is the notion that the late 90's-2000's were the hottest years on record. This was all a part of a deliberate attempt to 're-write' climatological history, which was before then pretty secure in the knowledge that the 1930's were the hottest decade with 1934 being the warmest year. Such a re-write (if it took) would 'prove' that something really remarkable was happening, since the the beginning of 'climatologically significant' releases of CO2 began circa 1950. How very inconvenient if the hottest years on record were actually 20 years before then, huh? Thank god that little mess has all been 'cleared up';)

    http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.24

    What were you saying about 'credible sources':rolleyes:

    Jimbo
     
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    I provided the sources.

    One can learn about science from "globalwarminghoax.com" or NASA.

    Your choice.
     
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    Jimbo1490 Senior Member

    You provided the (obsolete) NASA source, but at least globalwarminghoax.com provided the latest (August 2007) NASA (GISS) data, which contradicts and supersedes the data you provided. Do you only trust NASA as a source when they agree with you?

    Jimbo
     

  15. Guillermo
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    Guillermo Ingeniero Naval

    Some interesting comentaries about peer reviewed articles, taken from several posters at other forums/blogs


    "The peer review process is what it is. As due diligence, it's very cursory; it's not an "audit". My main issue is that all too often in climate science, the pea gets moved under the thimble in the sense that cursory journal peer review process is treated as though the equivalent of an audit."

    "When I have been a peer reviewer (in a different field of science), I have nearly always found "show stoppers" that partly or completely negated the main conclusions. But, usually I dug deep — once producing a counter-report in more mathematical detail than the original I was reviewing. Most peer reviewers I have observed directly seem to spend very little time — sometimes just an afternoon — particularly if they are in general agreement with the conclusions. And, to be fair, a couple times I took a "pass" too."

    "People outside science have a hopelessly exaggerated idea of the quality of peer review. I am a regular reviewer for physics journals, and I probably spend about three or four hours reviewing a typical manuscript. I check that it is comprehensible, that the authors haven't made any really glaring errors, and that they give enough references to place the work in its proper context. If I have time, and the paper is very close to my own field, I check a couple of calculations. If the manuscript is for a really top journal I spend a little longer; if it's from a group I know and trust I'm not so careful. And that's it. Comparing my reviews with other reviews of the same manuscripts I get the impression that I am at the careful end of reviewing in my field.

    I used to reckon as a handy rule of thumb that 10% of published papers in my field were fraudulent, 30% were erroneous, 30% were technically correct but completely irrelevant, and the remaining 30% were worth bothering with."


    "...as a form of due diligence, journal peer review in the multiproxy climate field is remarkably cursory, as compared with the due diligence of business processes. Peer review for climate publications, even by eminent journals like Nature or Science, is typically a quick unpaid read by two (or sometimes three) knowledgeable persons, usually close colleagues of the author."


    Cheers.
     
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