What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. michael pierzga
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    Offshore oil is like a savings account for future generations. Who are we to decide how to use these resources? Future generations must decide how to use their resorces.
     
  2. hoytedow
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    It would be nice if our future generations here spoke English as our primary language with some Spanish. We don't want to answer to Chinese masters in Chinese.
     
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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    Off to work for my Dutch masters now. Goed morgen. Ik loop.
     
  4. wardd
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    he wants to support terrorists with money for saudi oil
     
  5. wardd
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    the oceans are becoming to acidic to swim in even for fish
     
  6. wardd
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    and the chinese will be more our masters as we have to borrow from them to fund the reptilian tax cuts
     
  7. mark775

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    Okay, too many ill-conceived notions for me to fully cover...but:
    Wad, better to keep your mouth shut and let people believe you are an idiot than open it - and prove it. Every comment you make is not backed by anything other than "Yeah!" and "Me too!". STFU, as you waste space.
    Boston, it's a dead horse - get a new one and make a blanket out of that one or whatever - you might need it! Okay, so you know some professor cuz you live close to the university. Pick a different professor, for shitsakes! Maybe we will have a hot year this year, I don't know but it's colder than a witch's tit here (Ice racers on the lake behind my house - IN NOVEMBER). Bos, I have mowed my grass for Christmas before. This is not a little thing. Since 1980, we have had ice one could walk on in November ONE TIME. Now, there are 200 cars going in circles! The funny thing is, you can regurgitate the arguments from your professor friend all you want but Homer is not the only place. E-VER-Y-PLACE is getting colder or, at least, staying the same. The world has stayed the same or cooled for fifteen years. Tough to swallow, I know. It's a big planet, go ahead and give a list of places that have warmed. I'm sure there are some, and there have been numbers twisted, statistics distorted, etc., but what do your goose bumps tell you? "It is colder".
    Michael, You are almost making sense - almost. "Conserving", "Leaving a better planet", "GW overshadow the real goal", "This approach (cheap energy) is unsustainable". It just doesn't work the way you suggest! You are right, on one hand, that there will be alternatives to oil one day. Solar panels? Probably not. The point is, people that don't work or don't want to work or do not have the same opportunities are jealous of the US. They can't stand to see us eating non-seasonal fruit and driving Hummers but, if one slows down on the antagonism a bit and thinks, he'll eventually come to the conclusion that PROSPERING IS THE BEST THING WE CAN DO FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. "Offshore oil is like a savings account"? No, there will likely be alternatives (My fingers are crosssed for fusion) but they don't exist yet. Taxing oil to encourage it's use does, indeed, make us use less but it also makes us poorer! Less wealth also means less stability, less security. Do you believe it will be better for our kids to have a weak west, possibly getting hammered on by a crazed Kim Jong Il or a stone-aged middle-east with a nuclear weapon, but maintain reserves for our children? Which is it - that "we have no right to use the oil" or "there are alternatives"? If neither, you are suggesting that we lay down Western civilization for the sake of what we yet do not know. Brilliant, liberal thinking. Simply brilliant.
    Also, oil doesn't get pumped out of the ground like it gets pumped out of a barrel. There will ALWAYS be more, but harder to get with current technology. The "reserve" will be the harder-to-get-at stuff, but they will have different technology (of course they will - it is their incentive!) If the next generation succeeds in fusion or whatever, oil can be used for a higher purpose - chemicals or plastics, or WHATEVER. The kids will be free to use it...or not!
    Let me lay down something for you to chew on - The best chance of finding an alternative is going to be with a vibrant, prospering business world. Think of the profits to be made by the guy who comes up with the next big thing! There is more incentive in profit than another other dangling carrot! Please don't be so jealous of that guy that you remove his motivation, for I feel that we should have alternatives before we stop using oil. Then it will happen naturally.
     
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    oh, wise one, should i run my posts by you before posting?

    tell me in my last 3 posts where they are fundamentally wrong

    leave out the reference to hoy but saudi oil money is going to al queda
     
  9. mark775

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    You're just a "me too" kinda guy (gal?), a "dog pile" sort. I guess the world needs those and plenty of 'em. Don't take it personally, but you should be out digging a hole or dressing hair or something. You have no need to be near pen and paper, nor keyboard.
     
  10. wardd
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    but i work and bought my computer and you still haven't answered my question

    when you have the facts, pound on the facts

    if you don't have the facts on your side pound the table

    you're pounding the table
     
  11. mark775

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    Okay, Wad - but for your sake, if you are going to continue to try this (and I wish you luck!) rather than hang onto a quote and search for a place to stick it, strive to understand the topic at hand and come up with something original or, at least appropriate and attributed, to say.
    I'm sorry. You're funny and all but I can't spend any more time on you this morning.
     
  12. wardd
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    i understand that the world climate is changing at an unprecedented rate and the flora and fauna cant adapt quickly enough

    the oceans are becoming acidic and being fished to extinction

    what do you understand?
     
  13. mark775

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    There is much overfishing, which has nothing to do with global warming. Now scurry along...something needs doing and you really are unproductive trying to use your nerve bundle to think.
     
  14. wardd
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    ok, you missed the point

    it's another example of humanities cavalier behaver toward the earth

    but that's ok the rapture is soon
     

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    hoytedow Fly on the Wall - Miss ddt yet?

    We may have snow flurries in Florida tonight and it isn't even winter yet.
     
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