What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. hoytedow
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    He likely learned English from U.S. Pentecostal missionaries, Hoyt. More of them wud use a "k". Also forgive that he has no humor - I am losing mine, as well, and can empathize.

    "Skeptic does not mean him who doubts, but him who investigates or researches as opposed to him who asserts and thinks that he has found." - Miguel de Unamuno, "Essays and Soliloquies," 1924. I thing 'ol Miguel was foreseeing AGW politics.
     
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    If you take a look under "cheers, Hoyt" you will see the Marco1 quote of which I am fond. It is spelled with a k. I just prefer the c when I use the word.
     
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    I never notice but let the words fly!
     
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    I am happy that a simple thought of mine has found it's way in your signature Hoyt.
    As for spelling, the US spelling is skeptic and the UK is sceptic. When I use almost always UK spelling, in this case I make an exception, considering the root of the word is Greek skeptesthai (to examine closely) and spelled with k.
    Notice that a skeptic based on the meaning of the original word is an observer, an analyst and the complete opposite of a believer. The root of the word belief is the Latin root cred and the base for words like credulity, credo, credible etc, mostly associated with faith, or the belief in what can not be seen nor proven, the belief in inspiration revelation or authority. The opposite of course is rationality or reason.
    One of the many reasons I do not reason with believers....pun intended...

     
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    "...in this case I make an exception, considering the root of the word is Greek skeptesthai (to examine closely) and spelled with k." - WOW - you must be a linguist!
    I wudn't know about the word without looking it up - like I said, I just let 'em fly (and seldom back up except when it looks funny). The etymology I read said we got it from the French, therefore "c". There was once a move afoot to make American English make more sense, hence the hard "k" - nothing to do with caring that the root was from a "k" word.
    As verification that I don't know, I watched the world spelling bee championships the other night and I knew NONE of the final ten words that the fourteen-year-olds spelled. I feel on more equal footing here!
     
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    Companero, what's with the touchiness there...?

    All I did was making sure I got it right. usanians do not use GB spelling. Had you said a "coloUr" I would have done the same. Nowhere did I say a word of critique about your potential spelling fallouts.

    Did I find your weak point, Achilles, my friend?

    I am sensing that there will be no going back to politics and religion after this...

    :D

    To the resident dumbos, I consider Fidel to be of your derechista ilk. Communism is INCOMPATIBLE with dictatorship. Let us not forget that he's from a rich family, studied in Harvard, and was probably only jealous of Batista, who in his own right was colluding with communist party of Cuba when the elections time came. When he did not win, he overthrew the govt and killed all communists he could.

    Fidel is doing the same, so he's really just another derchista piece of **** hiding himself behind the populist "socialism/communism to the masses crap. Another richo screwing the poor so that he can be the "king".

    It's a lot easier to simply believe what others say and think it's okay to perpetuate other people's ideas just because they told you so. Figuring things out on your own is obviously an impossible task. It's a, whatsacalled, an intellectual stuff...

    Derechistas no can do that. It's called "hard work".

    (a - to be spellingly correct) Lot easier to screw the poor and naive. Easy money.
     
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    While I found myself struggling not to agree with the good explanation of the "sKeptic" word exclusively because of the author, a note on this one: Pachanga is a Colombian native word, not Cuban. Despite the legends about the word being attributed to a Cuban singer Eduardo Davidson, he actually got it from Colombians, but would never admit it because it made him more famous than his singing.

    According to my white hot (back off Daniel!!! :D ;) )wife who is Colombian, the word is from Atlantic coast and may be a bastardised word of local tribes meaning "dancing". It is known to be used by local african population from Cartagena to Cali, where it even got it's own song (Cali pachanguera - Cali dancing/partying city).

    So Fidel and pachanga - wrong mix. In more ways than one...

    (derechistas, knowledge...don't get me started...fortunately, my exploits seem funny to at least some)
     
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    Pachanga, danced and played in Cuba. Full stop.
    Latinos: word used to describe south and central american born of aborigine and spanish descent. Latin was spoken in Rome. Are they romans or italians?

    "origin" does not always mean much at all.
     
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    My tone in writing may have sounded harsher than I meant it to be. I could have said "remove the mote frome thine own eye..."etc.

    Some of us do use GB spelling if we have a personal history of reading, and may I say enjoying, English literature. Modern Englishmen could benefit greatly from reading Kipling, Tennyson and Scott, to name but a few.
     
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    Rapido
    not sure who clipped points on you but I'll fix that soon as this thing lets me.
    my take is your vies are as valuable as any and the diversity is essential to a meaningful discourse

    oh well
    dont let it get you down mate

    cheers all
    B
     
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    And I'll undo what you do when it lets me!
    I get my lit from Mark Twain.
     
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    Aaah Kipling and Mark Twine, I grew up with them and the Bruther Grimm, together with, Charles Dickens, Julio Verne, Karl May, then graduated to Edgar Allan Poe, Hemingway, Herman Hesse, AJ Cronin, Douglas...ah the joy of the Hatter's Castle, Magnificent Obsession...Well I grew up without TV which was a real blessing.

    I always thought I would like to write a novel or a collection of short stories,
    I have the name for my first short story: "The exploits of the local leftie"

    Hum forgot that Guareschi beat me to it in Don Camillo... :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgl0YzRoBfw
     

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    Well, Amatuku, the poster child of disappearing atolls, the threatened “real-life Atlantis”, home of the disappearing missionaries’ cabin, happened to be one of the atolls considered in the study. The authors found that despite the loss of the missionaries’ cabin, Amatuku increased in area by about 5% over the nineteen year period during which it was studied … ah, the irony, it burns.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/03/the-irony-it-burns/
     
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