What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. hoytedow
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    The air can be quite thin in Chile, can't it?:p
     
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    Correct, thank you very much. cheney, bush and alikes, HUGE caca del toro.

    (your spanish is getting better by the day, Señor. Felicitaciones.)

    Look at other links, there are a couple from CNN. Mucha caca del toro, made in forrest gump's cabinet. That is the only thing that one can expect from the wrong wing.

    Pity.
     
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    From CNN:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFz7gLz7CVk&feature=related

    Then forrest gump and his wrong wing nazists concocted the story only a child would believe.

    Now the same people say, all is well in the air. humans are making no changes whatsoever. Yet , we know well that we do. Only a child can believe deniers nowadays. Because even they do not believe in their silly stories.
     
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    I like Cheney, have my differences with the Bushes, mostly the father, whom I voted for but became very upset that he dismantled the neutron bombs.

    CNN "commie nitwit nuts" is not credible except when there is a power failure.

    "La vida es como una caja de bombones." forrest gump
     
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    How about we stick to one conspiracy theory per thread?:)

    This one's devoted to the global warming conspiracy aficionados. Anyone who wants to claim Hiroshima and Nagasaki were refugee camps that the US attacked just to see how atomic bombs would work, or who wants to rant about 9/11 being committed by the Jews or the Bush administration, should go start his own thread....
     
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    Google: Mann upside down data

    This is one of the key men that the IPCC wants us to trust for the justification of the largest transfer of wealth in human history.

    Jimbo
     
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    Charmin is better, both on you and the plumbing.
     
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    Threads meander a bit but it is impossible to get anywhere with an active **** slinging monkey around.

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    D.F. commuter pulling Tequesquitengo water ski boat to piss off your Gaia goddess enuf that she gets him in his no-rebar hut next time...

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    Alex Jones' Prison Planet, and the Canada Free Press? You're wandering pretty far afield there, Hoyte.:)

    Jones, as we all know, has never met a conspiracy theory he didn't like. And Alex Jones quoting Judith McLeod at Canada Free Press is a case of one nut quoting another nut. McLeod is the gal who claims that 9/11 was a Mafia plot, and carries on about Winnie the Pooh having a more authentic birth certificate than Obama.

    But the basis of the story is factual, even if the extragant spin around it isn't: yes, Obama was one of 12 members on the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation at the time it gave two grants to the Chicago Climate Exchange. Presumably he voted for the grants -- along with all or most of about 1500 other grants the foundation gave out, over the years he served on the board.

    Whoop-de-do. What's all the fuss about? There's nothing to indicate that the grants benefited Obama himself in any way. Wouldn't it have been rather strange for him to vote against the grants, when he's been a long-time supporter of cap and trade?

    Nor do I buy the notion that Chicago Climate Exchange is a "scam." Who have they screwed?
     
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    "Largest transfer of wealth in human history? More melodramatic, paranoid nonsense. Who's transferring what wealth, from whom to whom, and using what mechanism? And where are you getting the figures to prove that it's the largest in history?
     
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    That's quite true, Mark. So maybe you should knock off the personal attacks on people for their home states, politics, sex lives, union memberships, patriotism, education, jobs and careers, etc. None of it has anything at all to do with climate change.
     

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    More AGW scandal will be uncovered. Offensive link was removed and replaced with this one:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,591542,00.html

    excerpt:
    "Not to mention, other places — like Europe — who have tried to implement green initiatives (like Spain) and then base markets on it are suffering the consequences. Because, as Time unwittingly described the creation of Chicago Climate Exchange, it "creates something out of nothing." There is no value behind the market; it's like Pets.com except now its solar panels.
    So who would want to create something like this?
    In 2000 and 2001, Chicago Climate Exchange received start-up grants from the Joyce Foundation. The Joyce Foundation is like the George Soros' TIDES Foundation. In fact, it's actually bigger than TIDES and even funds TIDES. Think of it as a place where uber-rich and powerful liberals like to dump their money into, so the cash can be spread around to their pet projects without a direct link.
    The Joyce Foundation supports such luminaries as John Ayers (William Ayers' brother).
    There was one influential member on the board of the Joyce Foundation at the time the Chicago Climate Exchange got its seed money; someone instrumental in steering the funds towards the creation of the Chicago Climate Exchange. They were on the board from 1994-2002. The founder of the Chicago Climate Exchange, Richard Sandor, said that he "knew (this person) well," which is perhaps how the money was awarded to the Kellogg Graduate School of Management, where Sandor was a research professor. I'll get back to that person in a minute……
    ….Oh and I almost forgot: The person at the beginning of it all? The one on the board of the Joyce Foundation that secured the initial funding for this project? Barack Obama.


    ……So what are we missing? Well, we're missing the bill and the technology to make it happen; the machinery to make it happen.
    You are trading air; it's hard to keep track of air. The good news is, the bill is being worked on by Republicans and Democrats. That's cap-and-trade.
    The machinery, the device? A patent for such a device was worked on by CO2e.com CEO Carlton Bartels. Shortly after he filed for the patent on his system to trade residential carbon credits, he was killed in the 9/11 attacks. Bartels wife then shopped the idea around and was able to find a buyer. The buyer ended up being a guy who wasn't really a good guy, he committed massive accounting fraud and manipulated earnings in his company in order to make huge bonuses.
    That person was Franklin Raines, who just happened to be the CEO of Fannie Mae at the time. The patent was eventually approved by the U.S. Patent and Trade Office on Nov. 7, 2006 — coincidentally the day after Democrats took control of Congress. Thanks to Barbara Hollingsworth of the Washington Examiner for pointing this out to us.
    So now, Fannie Mae, who is congressionally mandated to "make housing more affordable," is poised to reap billions on a system that has nothing to do with housing except for that it would make housing costs go up.
    That's great.
    Remember when Fannie purchased risky mortgages from banks, bundled them together and sold to investors as mortgage-backed securities? And then the housing market was absolutely destroyed? Well, former Fannie VP Scott Lesmes was responsible for that bundling.
    Well, here's the good news: Not only will this new carbon trading "system" try the exact same bundling method (except with air); they are using the exact same guy: Scott Lesmes.
    But, please, don't worry. The only ones involved in this are the corrupt Franklin Raines, Mr. redistribution of wealth Barack Obama, and all the people who the House and Senate are currently saying are the bad guys."


    Next, you will be saying Beck is a liar. You will lose.
     
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