What Do We Think About Climate Change

They can do what all refugees do. Move.

 

The Climategate on Finnish television (subtitles in English)







Enjoy.

 

Wow! Look at what an Eco-site has just posted!
http://www.ecowho.com/articles/42/Climategate,_what_is_going_on?.html

Last words following their conclusions, which I subscribe (all of them) entirely:
"So still keeping doing what you can to reduce your adverse effect on the environment, on the chance that they are right (plus cutting down your pollution is a good thing anyways, you don't need a climate model to work that out); but do keep an open mind on this whole situation. The last thing we and the planet need is people jumping to the wrong conclusions for the wrong reasons; there is not much slack for the taking if we are wrong."

(Bolded is mine)

Most amazing and encouraging! Almost as amazing and encouraging as seeing Boston finally converting to the realists side!


Best regards.

 

Guillermo, you are posting many links coming from scientists.

How do you know they are right? Scientists, as we have seen in the emails fiasco, very good liars. Who says any of your "arguments" are true?

You are being taken for a ride in a fight between the scientists.

What if they are simply jealous at the success of the pro-change fuckwits and are trying to get under the spotlight just to be able to tell their mamas they were on the TV last night?

The picture about the climate is incomplete and it is still early to draw any definite conclusions. Your arguments that it is not true are just as bad as the "climate is changing".

There's not enough data to confirm either way.

 

How come some believe in "god" when there's absolutely no scientific data to confirm, or deny, existence of any such "supreme" being...?

I can show you some graphs that show clearly that there is no such thing....

 

Pick the side whose hypothesis has proved capable of skillful prediction (Hint: it's NOT the AGW side)

Funny how it was only ever the AGW side that said (and still say) "The science is settled; now it's time for action!"

Jimbo

 

And it's not the deniers side either. They are like roman and orthodox, jewish and muslim believers. They believe in the same thing yet fight and hate each other. And wouldn't even admit it, although it is plain obvious.

Many opposed to your AGW have said the same thing for their choosen side right here.

And these are exactly my points. Neither side is right, and still both sides have valid arguments for their theories.

The problem is that there are few tru scientists left nowadays. Too much money and too many vested interests, religiously indoctrinated individuals pretending to be "scientists". Fatalists with their own little personal agendas, just like that immunologist from Europe somewhere, who had created "avian flu", and when that flipped over, he simply created the 'swine flu".

And he was the principal advisor to EU and UN...

******* money-greedy capitalist swines manipulating the truth to make money on stupid and gullible masses who, ironically, have no choice but to avail themselves to the "authority" of a "scientist".

But masses learn... eventually.

 

La cucaracha
La cucaracha
ya no puede caminar....
porque le falta
porque no tiene
marijuana que fumar..
chun chan...

 

Somehow I was expecting, marco/mark/captain mark/zed/ whatever else are your nicks, to raise your childlish head and say something that stupid.

And you surpassed my trepid expectations with flying stup...colours.

Congratulations.

 

Sul mare luccica l’astro d’argento.
Placida è l’onda, prospero è il vento.
Sul mare luccica l’astro d’argento.
Placida è l’onda, prospero è il vento.
Venite all’agile barchetta mia,
Santa Lucia! Santa Lucia!
Venite all’agile barchetta mia,
Santa Lucia! Santa Lucia!

 

Running Down to Cuba

Running Down to Cuba

To Cuba's coast we are bound, me boys,
'Way, me boys, for Cuba!
To Cuba's coast, now don't you make a noise,
And we're running down to Cuba.

The captain he will trim the sails
Winging the water over the rails.

Oh my God! How the wind do blow
Running south from the ice and the snow.

Give me a gal who can dance the 'dango
Round as a melon and sweet as a mango.

To Cuba's coast we are bound away
To Cuba's coast at the breaking of the day.

(I've got a gal about nine feet tall etc. etc._)
RG

 

A wake follows a boat like a bill collector follows a debtor, so...

Tim Finnegan lived in Walkin Street,
A gentle Irishman mighty odd
He had a brogue both rich and sweet,
An' to rise in the world he carried a hod
You see he'd a sort of a tipplers way
but for the love for the liquor poor Tim was born
To help him on his way each day,
he'd a drop of the craythur every morn

Whack fol the dah now dance to yer partner
round the flure yer trotters shake
Bend an ear to the truth they tell ye,
we had lots of fun at Finnegan's Wake

One morning Tim got rather full,
his head felt heavy which made him shake
Fell from a ladder and he broke his skull, and
they carried him home his corpse to wake
Rolled him up in a nice clean sheet,
and laid him out upon the bed
A bottle of whiskey at his feet
and a barrel of porter at his head

His friends assembled at the wake,
and Widow Finnegan called for lunch
First she brought in tay and cake,
then pipes, tobacco and whiskey punch
Biddy O'Brien began to cry,
"Such a nice clean corpse, did you ever see,
Tim, auvreem! O, why did you die?",
"Will ye hould your gob?" said Paddy McGee

Then Maggie O'Connor took up the cry,
"O Biddy" says she "you're wrong, I'm sure"
Biddy gave her a belt in the gob
and sent her sprawling on the floor
Then the war did soon engage,
t'was woman to woman and man to man
Shillelagh law was all the rage
and a row and a ruction soon began

Mickey Maloney ducked his head
when a bucket of whiskey flew at him
It missed, and falling on the bed,
the liquor scattered over Tim
Now the spirits new life gave the corpse, my joy!
Tim jumped like a Trojan from the bed
Cryin will ye walup each girl and boy,
t'underin' Jaysus, do ye think I'm dead?"

Just like the Western economy.

 

Can we be serious, please? The satyric song's thread is somewhere else in these forums

Coming back to subject:

"The global annual average net cloud forcings due to shipping (year 2012) are in the range of −0.27 to −0.58 W/m2 with regional cooling occurring most over the remote oceans."

From: "Assessment of Near-Future Policy Instruments for Oceangoing Shipping: Impact on Atmospheric Aerosol Burdens and the Earth’s Radiation Budget" Axel Lauer, Veronika Eyring, James J. Corbett, Chengfeng Wang and James J. Winebrake . Environ. Sci. Technol., 2009, 43 (15), pp 5592–5598

http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es900922h

Cheers.

 

My apologies.

 

Hooroo