What Do We Think About Climate Change

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  1. hoytedow
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    carterisms

    Jimmy Carter tried pulling that nonsense in the late 1970's and the sheeple submitted. Everyone else stayed comfortable.
     
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    At least one good thing came out of the collapse and ongoing bunfight in the right wing of politic Australia... Just the luck of the draw I am afraid, for politicians seem to lose any capacity at logical analysis as soon as they attain political "office"..... Don't bless Australia, just thank God - blessings - to me do not become deserved by chance actions amongst fools with other agenda... Just thank God.
     
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    When the next ice sheet covers North America, the Mexico-US border will finally be closed, to keep out the Gringos.
    Cuando la capa de hielo cubre próximos América del Norte, la frontera México-Estados Unidos será finalmente cerrado, para mantener a los gringos.
     
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    Pericles - let them enjoy a breath of cooling air for a while:D:eek:

    hoytedow - I then hope you folk north have lots of heating oil/gas/wood and good insulation and so on....
     
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    Mo worries, Mas, I am in Central Florida, waaaay south of the moraines.
     
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    Possible Pissed Typist?

    Extract.

    "IPCC chair Rajendra Pachauri reacted angrily citing the IPCC 2007 climate change reports which asserted that the (Himalayan) glaciers are receding faster than in any other part of the world and if the present rate (of melting) continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps even sooner is very high if the earth keeps warming at the current rate. …

    [Where] did this number 2035 (the year when glaciers could vanish) come from? According to Prof Graham Cogley (Trent University, Ontario), a short article on the future of glaciers by a Russian scientist (Kotlyakov, V.M., 1996, The future of glaciers under the expected climate warming, 61-66, in Kotlyakov, V.M., ed., 1996, Variations of Snow and Ice in the Past and at Present on a Global and Regional Scale, Technical Documents in Hydrology, 1. UNESCO, Paris (IHP-IV Project H-4.1). 78p estimates 2350 as the year for disappearance of glaciers, but the IPCC authors misread 2350 as 2035 in the Official IPCC documents, WGII 2007 p. 493!

    That's very reassuring. We are relying on people who cannot even proof-read their own supposedly scientific papers. It is, though, a little worse than that.

    One of the comments (no. 13) on Charlie Martin's piece explains:

    As hard as this is to believe, it’s worse than you report. The IPCC quote is in the section about Asia, talking about glaciers in the Himalayas “receding faster than in any other part of the world”. However, the Kotlyakov article is about glaciation in the entire world. The statement about the reduction by 2350 is about the entire world, but notes “Glaciers will survive only in the mountains of inner Alaska, on some Arctic archipelagos, within Patagonian ice sheets, in the Karakoram Mountains, in the Himalayas, in some regions of Tibet and on the highest mountain peaks in the temperature latitudes.”

    Not only is the concern off by 200 years, but the Himalayas are where the glaciers will survive.

    It gets worse. The IPCC cites a WWF report as the source, but they actually quoted Kotlyakov (except for botching the year) without even crediting Kotlyakov in the references.

    Can we take away their Nobel Prize and give it to the person who leaked those e-mails?"

    http://yourfreedomandours.blogspot.com/2009/12/just-two-stories-on-climategate.html
     
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    Fasteddy, That is a great link, I have bookmarked it, thanks!

    I like this report....shows how these guys that were in these emails have recieved $20 million from grants and they had to keep proving up the idea to keep the money flowing!

    http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/climategate.html
     
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    If sunspot ativity increases as some say it is starting to do, it will be interesting to note if the short term global temperature resumes its upward trend again.
     

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    Just about says it all.......
     

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